General range question - Page 2

Satish Robertson · 06-22-2006, 08:56 AM

Whatever works. In my case, I was recently shown by non other than trumpet virtuoso Vinnie Cutro, how to use the diaphragm to aid in acheiving apropriate air stream and in just a week's time I can feel a positive difference when playing above the staff.

Perhaps it's the abdominals surrounding the diapragm in conjunction with the muscles in the back, what do I know? All I can say is that I think of the diaphragm and with that my high notes are more effortless than ever.

Solar Bell · 06-22-2006, 10:12 AM

Satish,

No matter who told you what...

The diaphragm cannot be used to control in ANY way the air leaving your body, or supporting your air flow. When the diaphraghm is tightened, it pulls air into the chest, when relaxed, air flows out.

http://www.delta-education.com/scien...rBodyLink2.pdf

-cw-

Satish Robertson · 06-22-2006, 10:29 AM

Schilke B6, I've read the information and I stand humbly corrected. Perhaps I've benefited from a "placebo effect"- thinking diaphragm when in actuality it's my abs pushing the air.

Dammit I'm just glad to have better control of my range!

Tootsall · 06-22-2006, 10:32 AM

Chuck's got it right. Check this article out: http://freespace.virgin.net/pip.eastop/html/breath.htm

Satish Robertson · 06-22-2006, 10:42 AM

I'm astonished at how many of us have misunderstood the diaphragm up to this point; quite an epiphany. This deserves its own thread.

Liad Bar-EL · 09-28-2006, 08:10 AM

Rich Szabo has a tape for sale on breathing: http://www.richszabo.com/

Liad Bar-EL

06-22-2006, 08:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
Satish Robertson New Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 25	Whatever works. In my case, I was recently shown by non other than trumpet virtuoso Vinnie Cutro, how to use the diaphragm to aid in acheiving apropriate air stream and in just a week's time I can feel a positive difference when playing above the staff. Perhaps it's the abdominals surrounding the diapragm in conjunction with the muscles in the back, what do I know? All I can say is that I think of the diaphragm and with that my high notes are more effortless than ever. __________________ -- Satish My Gear: Lolite Bb Trumpet Vintage 1947 Martin Committee #151337 Bach 3C mouthpieces (1 silver & 1 gold plated)

06-22-2006, 10:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
Solar Bell Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 3,921	Satish, No matter who told you what... The diaphragm cannot be used to control in ANY way the air leaving your body, or supporting your air flow. When the diaphraghm is tightened, it pulls air into the chest, when relaxed, air flows out. http://www.delta-education.com/scien...rBodyLink2.pdf -cw- __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan

06-22-2006, 10:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
Satish Robertson New Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 25	Schilke B6, I've read the information and I stand humbly corrected. Perhaps I've benefited from a "placebo effect"- thinking diaphragm when in actuality it's my abs pushing the air. Dammit I'm just glad to have better control of my range! __________________ -- Satish My Gear: Lolite Bb Trumpet Vintage 1947 Martin Committee #151337 Bach 3C mouthpieces (1 silver & 1 gold plated)

06-22-2006, 10:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Satish Robertson New Friend Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 25	I'm astonished at how many of us have misunderstood the diaphragm up to this point; quite an epiphany. This deserves its own thread. __________________ -- Satish My Gear: Lolite Bb Trumpet Vintage 1947 Martin Committee #151337 Bach 3C mouthpieces (1 silver & 1 gold plated)

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06-22-2006, 10:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Chuck's got it right. Check this article out: http://freespace.virgin.net/pip.eastop/html/breath.htm

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Liad Bar-EL Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 1,168	Rich Szabo has a tape for sale on breathing: http://www.richszabo.com/ Liad Bar-EL

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