I would like your input please! - Page 3

silverstar · 03-29-2006, 05:20 PM

I didn't play it from memory. There's a music stand off to the right of the screen that's (barely) holding up my Arbans. I haven't really looked at this that much, it's just something fun I thought I'd learn one day...just thought I'd clear that up. Eventually I'll try to memorize it...but, right now, I still need the music. (I don't want to be getting credit for something I didn't do...)

Thanks everyone for your help!

Lara

TrentAustin · 03-29-2006, 05:26 PM

Hey Lara!

Nice clip, and I hear great improvement from the last clip I heard (maybe a year ago?) Major KUDOS to that!

I'd love for you to blow through more on every phrase, and ESPECIALLY during those grace notes... make them flow with the music... never forced and always "graceful". I'd also think maybe shaping more dynamically will help... it's not written (I haven't looked at the Carnival of Venice in years, I did play it on a recital eons ago) probably as much but I'm always in need of more interpretation of the phrases.

Your airstream (and the proper manipulation of it) is your biggest ally!

FWIW, "YMMV",

T

silverstar · 03-29-2006, 06:00 PM

Thank you all! Wow...so much input.

I made another clip. *

* Did I learn anything? (I hope I did!)

Clicky!

Lara

Solar Bell · 03-29-2006, 06:06 PM

Even better!

And....by the way,,,BEAUTIFUL TRUMPET!!!!

-cw-

ps
I like how your eyebrows go up with the high notes! lol

trjeam · 03-29-2006, 06:09 PM

I don't know about anyone else but I definitely hear improvements with the overall tone and intonation and some of those embellishments even sound clearer...

here's the thing about shaping the music that I learned from Mr. Lindemann and my teacher:

You Can Always Do More

Also i really like this video a lot better. It gives me a better appreciation for that trumpet. It's so pretty and looks huge!!!!

btw nice smile in the beginning!

Derek Reaban · 03-29-2006, 07:49 PM

Lara,

Jorge has it exactly right. You can always do more!

Really subdivide through these phrases. 1-2-3 4-5-6 (Strong-weak-weak Strong-weak-weak). When you get to the second space A (downbeat of the 3rd bar) really count (1-2-3-4) before you move to the G and C eighth notes. You're setting up a "groove" with the melody riding on top, and right now you "lose your groove" every once in a while. Another spot were this is very aparent is the dotted half note (4th line D). WAIT for the C prior to the fermatta (this is the one that happens on the down beat. You are currently putting the fermatta on the downbeat. It's a whole different feel there!

The last rhythmic thing is just before the fermatta on the second space A. The bar before this is Quarter eighth triplet and Quarter eighth note. Right now you are cutting that second quarter note short (it's more like an eighth note).

When you fix those couple of bars and then keep the sound going through the phrases (not louder, just don't back away from it), it's going to be great!

I hope these ideas help.

Nice job!

frank · 03-30-2006, 03:55 AM

Time to upgrade to broadnad, I guess... I tried to listen to it several times and it just freezed my PC

Try to sort that out soon.

BTW: Lara, guess why I know that your "String-Of-Pearls"-trumpet is hanging above the window in the testing room?

Eclipsehornplayer · 03-30-2006, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverstar

I didn't play it from memory. There's a music stand off to the right of the screen that's (barely) holding up my Arbans. I haven't really looked at this that much, it's just something fun I thought I'd learn one day...just thought I'd clear that up. Eventually I'll try to memorize it...but, right now, I still need the music. (I don't want to be getting credit for something I didn't do...)

Thanks everyone for your help!

Lara

Ok now I don't feel so old.... Had you said you did that from memory I'd have really felt old. I can't remember half the fingerings on my notes anymore let alone whole piecies of music!

Enjoy your youth while you have it.

Good job keep it up. Maybe one day I'll have the guts to do the same.

Robert Rowe · 03-30-2006, 07:39 AM

Nice.

My "take" on this intro ....

Find an old Al Hirt LP (vinyl 33 1/3-rpm record -- I'm a collector) with his version of the tune. It has influenced the way I play it.

Robert Rowe

Eclipsehornplayer · 03-30-2006, 02:24 PM

Lara,

Nice...!

I really like your sound. Very mellow and warm.

I see in the second clip you corrected the bob and weave

Still lifting your fingers off the valve butttons a bit though.

Keep up the good work, to play that well at your age your doing quite well.

You've inspired me a bit maybe I'll get brave and post a clip..

Keep up the good work!

Best wishes,
John

03-29-2006, 05:20 PM	#21 (permalink)
silverstar Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 892	I didn't play it from memory. There's a music stand off to the right of the screen that's (barely) holding up my Arbans. I haven't really looked at this that much, it's just something fun I thought I'd learn one day...just thought I'd clear that up. Eventually I'll try to memorize it...but, right now, I still need the music. (I don't want to be getting credit for something I didn't do...) Thanks everyone for your help! Lara __________________ email: Lara.Shema@gmail.com ***************************************** insert witty comment here

03-29-2006, 05:26 PM	#22 (permalink)
TrentAustin Moderator Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,586	Hey Lara! Nice clip, and I hear great improvement from the last clip I heard (maybe a year ago?) Major KUDOS to that! I'd love for you to blow through more on every phrase, and ESPECIALLY during those grace notes... make them flow with the music... never forced and always "graceful". I'd also think maybe shaping more dynamically will help... it's not written (I haven't looked at the Carnival of Venice in years, I did play it on a recital eons ago) probably as much but I'm always in need of more interpretation of the phrases. Your airstream (and the proper manipulation of it) is your biggest ally! FWIW, "YMMV", T __________________ Trent Austin lurking around. If you want to chat PM me. http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com

03-29-2006, 06:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
silverstar Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 892	Thank you all! Wow...so much input. I made another clip. * * Did I learn anything? (I hope I did!) Clicky! Lara __________________ email: Lara.Shema@gmail.com ***************************************** insert witty comment here

03-29-2006, 06:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
Solar Bell Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 3,998	Even better! And....by the way,,,BEAUTIFUL TRUMPET!!!! -cw- ps I like how your eyebrows go up with the high notes! lol __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan

03-29-2006, 06:09 PM	#25 (permalink)
trjeam Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 105	I don't know about anyone else but I definitely hear improvements with the overall tone and intonation and some of those embellishments even sound clearer... here's the thing about shaping the music that I learned from Mr. Lindemann and my teacher: You Can Always Do More Also i really like this video a lot better. It gives me a better appreciation for that trumpet. It's so pretty and looks huge!!!! btw nice smile in the beginning! __________________ Jorge Ayala http://www.soundclick.com/jorgeayala http://allabouttrumpet.blogspot.com

03-29-2006, 07:49 PM	#26 (permalink)
Derek Reaban Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 616	Lara, Jorge has it exactly right. You can always do more! Really subdivide through these phrases. 1-2-3 4-5-6 (Strong-weak-weak Strong-weak-weak). When you get to the second space A (downbeat of the 3rd bar) really count (1-2-3-4) before you move to the G and C eighth notes. You're setting up a "groove" with the melody riding on top, and right now you "lose your groove" every once in a while. Another spot were this is very aparent is the dotted half note (4th line D). WAIT for the C prior to the fermatta (this is the one that happens on the down beat. You are currently putting the fermatta on the downbeat. It's a whole different feel there! The last rhythmic thing is just before the fermatta on the second space A. The bar before this is Quarter eighth triplet and Quarter eighth note. Right now you are cutting that second quarter note short (it's more like an eighth note). When you fix those couple of bars and then keep the sound going through the phrases (not louder, just don't back away from it), it's going to be great! I hope these ideas help. Nice job! __________________ Derek Reaban Tempe, Arizona

03-30-2006, 03:55 AM	#27 (permalink)
frank Piano User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 423	Time to upgrade to broadnad, I guess... I tried to listen to it several times and it just freezed my PC Try to sort that out soon. BTW: Lara, guess why I know that your "String-Of-Pearls"-trumpet is hanging above the window in the testing room?

03-30-2006, 07:39 AM	#29 (permalink)
Robert Rowe Piano User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 498	Nice. My "take" on this intro .... Find an old Al Hirt LP (vinyl 33 1/3-rpm record -- I'm a collector) with his version of the tune. It has influenced the way I play it. Robert Rowe __________________ " ... Ya cain't polish a turd ...!" (old Southern expression) ~~ Love animals ... don't eat them. ~~

03-30-2006, 02:24 PM	#30 (permalink)
Eclipsehornplayer Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Flat Rock, Michigan Posts: 2,395	Lara, Nice...! I really like your sound. Very mellow and warm. I see in the second clip you corrected the bob and weave Still lifting your fingers off the valve butttons a bit though. Keep up the good work, to play that well at your age your doing quite well. You've inspired me a bit maybe I'll get brave and post a clip.. Keep up the good work! Best wishes, John __________________ Eclipse MHY Bb Trumpet with interchangable leadpipes Bach 229 25A C Trumpet Getzen Capri Bb Cornet GR & Monette mouthpieces

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