intonation??? - Page 3

dcstep · 10-11-2005, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek Reaban

Dave,

Sing it with the drone too! .

I hear you Mike, but like Tootsall I have trouble singing over high-C!

Thanks Buddy,

Dave

trickg · 10-11-2005, 05:43 PM

I'm reading a lot of advice that talks about singing the pitch, hearing the pitch, practicing to notes on a piano, buzzing melodies, etc. What if the horn simply resonates sharp due to the physics of the equipment? I mean really, the equipment has to be considered, right?

Just a thought.

old geezer · 10-11-2005, 06:28 PM

trickg - I had a beautiful Mt. Vernon that absolutely played great, tone, ease of playing ,ect. but the intonation when sharing a stand was just enough off that when sharing a stand on the higher parts it was noticable. I would have had it sent off for a new lead pipe but I couldn't bring myself to change a good horn. I don't have intonation issues with my Benges - go figure. old geezer Dave

tpter1 · 10-11-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcstep

I hear you Mike, but like Tootsall I have trouble singing over high-C!

Dave

Ha! You should hear me sing flute or clarinet one parts! (Or...maybe not...)

CGUM · 10-11-2005, 09:12 PM

Not to step on Mike's toes but, I'll try to clarify what he is getting at with the drone and try to answer your questions in this post.

Set the drone. to the tonic pitch. Then play a scale against it as mike reccomends. So you will be encountering intervals and dealing with how to play with/against it. Well, good luck with it.

CG

Rick Chartrand · 10-19-2005, 08:31 PM

The best way to improve your intonation is recording yourself so you can hear what youre doing. Then really listen to yourself and all the subtle nuances of your playing. Ear training is critical!

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matthoffner · 10-24-2005, 08:11 PM

i have found that doing "droning" excersizes has greatly improved my intonation as well as my sound!

There is a great CD called... The Tuning CD - you basically play along with an organ..but I find that playing scales and intervals against a very loud pitch on my metronome/tuner works just as well. This also helps me to get a full, resonant sound during my warm up.

jcstites · 10-24-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthoffner

i have found that doing "droning" excersizes has greatly improved my intonation as well as my sound!

There is a great CD called... The Tuning CD - you basically play along with an organ..but I find that playing scales and intervals against a very loud pitch on my metronome/tuner works just as well. This also helps me to get a full, resonant sound during my warm up.

Do you know where we can buy this cd? Or is it a free thing that you could send me mp3s?

matthoffner · 10-24-2005, 10:51 PM

hey,

http://www.thetuningcd.com/

I have only used this a couple times - but I really liked it. What I do right now is plug my blue dr. beat into some speakers and playback a pitch (rather loudly!).

Another great thing is droning with another trumpet player..it helps with blending, just intonation, and playing relaxed.

tinnmann · 11-07-2005, 12:51 PM

I know I'm a little late chimming in but I just got on this thread. One of the others mentioned that a larger backbore helped him(Schike 14a4a vs.14a4). I had the same result as well. A Warburton 4SV with a 5 backbore played sharp above G. By experimenting I found that the 11 backbore was nearly perfect up top and gave me a fatter sound all around.

10-11-2005, 05:43 PM	#22 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	I'm reading a lot of advice that talks about singing the pitch, hearing the pitch, practicing to notes on a piano, buzzing melodies, etc. What if the horn simply resonates sharp due to the physics of the equipment? I mean really, the equipment has to be considered, right? Just a thought. __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

10-11-2005, 06:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
old geezer Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indianapolis,In. Posts: 174	trickg - I had a beautiful Mt. Vernon that absolutely played great, tone, ease of playing ,ect. but the intonation when sharing a stand was just enough off that when sharing a stand on the higher parts it was noticable. I would have had it sent off for a new lead pipe but I couldn't bring myself to change a good horn. I don't have intonation issues with my Benges - go figure. old geezer Dave __________________ L.A.Benge 2ML 16389 L.A.Benge 2MLP 11745 K- Allmen 1414 Yamaha 231 Flugel 15383 Olds Amb. Cornet 50734

10-11-2005, 09:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
CGUM Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 59	Not to step on Mike's toes but, I'll try to clarify what he is getting at with the drone and try to answer your questions in this post. Set the drone. to the tonic pitch. Then play a scale against it as mike reccomends. So you will be encountering intervals and dealing with how to play with/against it. Well, good luck with it. CG __________________ Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.

11-07-2005, 12:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
tinnmann New Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 17	I know I'm a little late chimming in but I just got on this thread. One of the others mentioned that a larger backbore helped him(Schike 14a4a vs.14a4). I had the same result as well. A Warburton 4SV with a 5 backbore played sharp above G. By experimenting I found that the 11 backbore was nearly perfect up top and gave me a fatter sound all around. __________________ Kanstul ZKT 1503s Kanstul ZKF 1525 flugel (brushed laquer) Olds "Aida" Herald Trumpet Schilke B5 Yamaha YCR 6330s Cornet Benge 90B(Large bore) Conn 34A cornet

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10-19-2005, 08:31 PM	#26 (permalink)
Rick Chartrand Piano User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 391	The best way to improve your intonation is recording yourself so you can hear what youre doing. Then really listen to yourself and all the subtle nuances of your playing. Ear training is critical! ___________________ Work hard for what you want, and you’ll get it Equipment Martin Committee Trumpet, T3467RE Holton Heim # 2 Mouthpiece Rick AKA Trumpet Man

10-24-2005, 08:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
matthoffner Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN/Yankton, SD Posts: 69	i have found that doing "droning" excersizes has greatly improved my intonation as well as my sound! There is a great CD called... The Tuning CD - you basically play along with an organ..but I find that playing scales and intervals against a very loud pitch on my metronome/tuner works just as well. This also helps me to get a full, resonant sound during my warm up.

10-24-2005, 10:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
matthoffner Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN/Yankton, SD Posts: 69	hey, http://www.thetuningcd.com/ I have only used this a couple times - but I really liked it. What I do right now is plug my blue dr. beat into some speakers and playback a pitch (rather loudly!). Another great thing is droning with another trumpet player..it helps with blending, just intonation, and playing relaxed.

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