My "someday I will play this " song... - Page 2

blutch · 01-25-2005, 10:32 PM

This drives me nuts.

"songs" are sung. "pieces" or "tunes" are played.

Even music educators get this wrong. Makes me grind my teeth when I hear it.

MA

Heavens2kadonka · 01-25-2005, 11:53 PM

CORNET

"The Carnival of Venice," by Jules Levy. Absolutely the hardest cornet piece I have ever heard, blows Arban, Clarke, EVERYONE out of the water.

The day I can properly, crisply triple tongue the upper register, and octave slur with the speed, accuracy, tone and grace that is expected (no, demanded) from this piece is the day that I will sing atop the mountain. I want to also find the Jules Levy model cornet (I think Courtois made it?) to play the piece on, to get the full effect.

FLUGELHORN

A Bobby Shew work. Any of the harder ones will suffice.

I am not to well acquainted with Flugel repertoire..

TRUMPET

Something Baroque. Probably a Bach transcription in the correct octave.

Still not certain. Theres some crazy French Conservatory repertoire lying around....

I plan for my big Senior recital to work up the Jules Levy piece for cornet, a really cool flugelhorn piece (Or two), and a few crazy, mainly baroque trumpet pieces.

Thank God thats still three-four years away...

Van

MUSICandCHARACTER · 01-26-2005, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blutch

This drives me nuts.

"songs" are sung. "pieces" or "tunes" are played.

Even music educators get this wrong. Makes me grind my teeth when I hear it.

MA

My wife and I have conversations like this all the time. Language is fluid and it drives my wife nuts. Colloquialisms drive her crazy too. She absolutely will not use a hyphen -- it really bugs here despite the fact it is very common today.

The fact is, songs (that are sung with the human voice) are often played. When played do they become "tunes" or "pieces" -- they were originally sung?

We could just call them all "charts" -- I love that one!

"Will you sing that chart for me?" I will not ask my church choir to do that.

They are all music of some type. A piece or tune or a song. "Play a song for me" is a common phrase today. Such is language.

Jim

Johnleopold · 01-26-2005, 02:25 AM

Wow... nice response... I guess my other song is Night is Tunisia and ... the Trumpet Solo from ... "Cold Duck" --- Les McCann Eddie Harry Album 1968 ? -- Montreux Expo or something like that... lost the CD cover so I only have a very worn CD... but Cold Duck is just like #1 for me...

Johnleopold · 01-26-2005, 02:26 AM

Sorry ... typing too fast... NIGHT IN TUNISIA...

old geezer · 01-26-2005, 10:18 AM

My wife is a very good player and she keeps me humble. She done both "Canival of Venice" and "Napoli" as a featured soloist with one of our community bands several times. Later in the concert I usually have several 8 or 12 bar solos in different pieces and I feel like a 7th grader. old geezer Dave

MUSICandCHARACTER · 01-26-2005, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnleopold

Sorry ... typing too fast... NIGHT IN TUNISIA...

That is what the

button is for. I have typed way too fast (or sloppy) many, many times. But thanks to the good ole edit button, presto! -- I can change them.

Probably the feature I use the most

Jim

camelbrass · 01-26-2005, 12:58 PM

Malcolm Arnold's Trumpet Concerto.

Whenever I think I'm getting really good I take it out and try it...then put it back away again!!!

It's a great leveller.

Regards,

Trevor

eisprl · 01-26-2005, 09:18 PM

I have to say Allen Vizzutti's interpretation of "The Carvival of Venice" although he calls it "The Carnival of Venus" is my all time goal to someday have mastered. (But that's a ways down the road).

Eric

eoliver · 01-26-2005, 09:35 PM

Maynard Ferguson, by Shorty Rodgers.

On the more legit side...Allen Vizzutti's "Rising Sun." I heard Jens Lindemann play this at ITG in Ft Worth and have a video of Vizzutti playing it. Totally awesome.

One day, they will be mine...oh, yes...they will be mine.

01-25-2005, 11:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	CORNET "The Carnival of Venice," by Jules Levy. Absolutely the hardest cornet piece I have ever heard, blows Arban, Clarke, EVERYONE out of the water. The day I can properly, crisply triple tongue the upper register, and octave slur with the speed, accuracy, tone and grace that is expected (no, demanded) from this piece is the day that I will sing atop the mountain. I want to also find the Jules Levy model cornet (I think Courtois made it?) to play the piece on, to get the full effect. FLUGELHORN A Bobby Shew work. Any of the harder ones will suffice. I am not to well acquainted with Flugel repertoire.. TRUMPET Something Baroque. Probably a Bach transcription in the correct octave. Still not certain. Theres some crazy French Conservatory repertoire lying around.... I plan for my big Senior recital to work up the Jules Levy piece for cornet, a really cool flugelhorn piece (Or two), and a few crazy, mainly baroque trumpet pieces. Thank God thats still three-four years away... Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

01-26-2005, 02:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
Johnleopold New Friend Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tracy, CA Posts: 26	Wow... nice response... I guess my other song is Night is Tunisia and ... the Trumpet Solo from ... "Cold Duck" --- Les McCann Eddie Harry Album 1968 ? -- Montreux Expo or something like that... lost the CD cover so I only have a very worn CD... but Cold Duck is just like #1 for me... __________________ MAN DO I LOVE TO PLAY...Always interested in music... don't know how to REALLY play yet... trying to learn... "Without stuggle... there can be no progress..." FD

01-26-2005, 02:26 AM	#15 (permalink)
Johnleopold New Friend Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tracy, CA Posts: 26	Sorry ... typing too fast... NIGHT IN TUNISIA... __________________ MAN DO I LOVE TO PLAY...Always interested in music... don't know how to REALLY play yet... trying to learn... "Without stuggle... there can be no progress..." FD

01-26-2005, 10:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
old geezer Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indianapolis,In. Posts: 174	My wife is a very good player and she keeps me humble. She done both "Canival of Venice" and "Napoli" as a featured soloist with one of our community bands several times. Later in the concert I usually have several 8 or 12 bar solos in different pieces and I feel like a 7th grader. old geezer Dave __________________ L.A.Benge 2ML 16389 L.A.Benge 2MLP 11745 K- Allmen 1414 Yamaha 231 Flugel 15383 Olds Amb. Cornet 50734

01-26-2005, 09:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
eisprl Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Halifax, NS CANADA Posts: 506	Vizzutti Baby I have to say Allen Vizzutti's interpretation of "The Carvival of Venice" although he calls it "The Carnival of Venus" is my all time goal to someday have mastered. (But that's a ways down the road). Eric __________________ Eric Sproul Practice is like filling a leaky bucket Bb: Yamaha Xeno 8335 C: Bach Stadivarious 239L and 25A leadpipe (Owned by Eric Sholtz) Flugel: Yamaha Bobby Shew 6310Z Mouthpieces: GR tech www.stadband.ca

01-25-2005, 10:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
blutch Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 66	This drives me nuts. "songs" are sung. "pieces" or "tunes" are played. Even music educators get this wrong. Makes me grind my teeth when I hear it. MA

01-26-2005, 12:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
camelbrass Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 798	Malcolm Arnold's Trumpet Concerto. Whenever I think I'm getting really good I take it out and try it...then put it back away again!!! It's a great leveller. Regards, Trevor

01-26-2005, 09:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
eoliver Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 70	Maynard Ferguson, by Shorty Rodgers. On the more legit side...Allen Vizzutti's "Rising Sun." I heard Jens Lindemann play this at ITG in Ft Worth and have a video of Vizzutti playing it. Totally awesome. One day, they will be mine...oh, yes...they will be mine. __________________ Eric Oliver www.trumpetwitheric.com

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