Preferred form of vibrato - Page 2

brem · 12-13-2007, 11:09 AM

I find it's easier with the jaw than with the tongue though, but I second what rowuk said.

c.nelson · 12-13-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vulgano Brother

Do you really use your lips, or your jaw when creating a vibrato? There are two forms of vibrato, one of pitch and the other of volume. Trumpeters use pretty much exclusively the pitch variety, and in classical circles the jaw vibrato is preferred. Exceptions to this rule? Heck yeah, tons. Try learning them all (as well as no vibrato--very important!) and use them musically.

Have fun!

uuh, I think the one of pitch (frequency modulation) is called vibrato.
The one of volume (amplitude modulation) is called tremolo.

Vulgano Brother · 12-13-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by c.nelson

uuh, I think the one of pitch (frequency modulation) is called vibrato.
The one of volume (amplitude modulation) is called tremolo.

Yup.

wiseone2 · 12-13-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brem

Depends what effect is desired. Jaw vibrato can't be as aggressive as the vibrato shaking the horn.

Using both. Different situations command different technique.

I can absolutely control my vibrato. I can vibrate fast, slow, or not at all. My vibrato can be wide or tight. I am in control of my vibrato. I use a hand vibrato. I never quite understood the bias against this vibrato. The horn does not shake.
Wilmer

wiseone2 · 12-13-2007, 10:15 PM

The bottom line is to control your singing voice.
Wilmer

DLP08 · 12-14-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wiseone2

I can absolutely control my vibrato. I can vibrate fast, slow, or not at all. My vibrato can be wide or tight. I am in control of my vibrato. I use a hand vibrato. I never quite understood the bias against this vibrato. The horn does not shake.
Wilmer

Same here actually. I use hand vibrato and and quite fond of it... I just hear so much about the jaw vibrato being much more benficial in the long run, so I've beeb having at it but just can't get it right. I can't "feel" the vibrato if it's not coming from my hand.

westhorn · 12-14-2007, 10:20 PM

I just shake the trumpet or if I am singing, I shake my head to get vibrato. I have not been playing the trumpet long so only I ask out of interest.

What technique is used for Mariachi, BTW?

burgerbob · 12-14-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by westhorn

I just shake the trumpet or if I am singing, I shake my head to get vibrato. I have not been playing the trumpet long so only I ask out of interest.

What technique is used for Mariachi, BTW?

I am pretty sure that Mariachi, or like Rafael Mendez vibrato is a fast jaw vibrato.

I use jaw vibrato on trombone and euphonium,
slide vibrato on jazz trombone,
and hand vibrato with a trumpet.
With low brass mouthpieces, you have much less of a chance of losing the note with jaw vibrato, just because there is more room. With a trumpet mouthpiece, at least in my case, I like to be careful, and hand vibrato sounds great, in about any setting that needs it.

Patric_Bernard · 12-14-2007, 10:53 PM

yes Mariachi is a very fast very wide jaw vibrato. I think the jaw vibrato can be developed into many different musical aspects (ex. Classical, Jazz, Mariachi) If you can hear what your doing, you can relate it to what your playing.

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