Problem with Valve 1? - Page 10

mrmusicnotes · 09-05-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CHAMP

why is it sometimes you write like an idiot and sometimes you write like a normal person...

wow that"s cold .Why is it sometimes you call yourself Champ when you act like a Chump! If your a grown man and your talking this way to a kid your the idiot!

Huggy Bear · 09-06-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman0042

With Valve 1 when i hold it down for a while it someitmes gets stuck half way or comes up slowly. I put oil on it but it doesnt seem to work. What should i do?

Astro-Glide? Seemed to work when you had the "incident" with the Coke bottle.....

FO' SHIZZLE!!!!!!!

Love,
Huggy Daddy

Hitman0042 · 09-06-2008, 03:51 AM

Thank you!

rowuk · 09-06-2008, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman0042

So what are you now a profiler and a trumpeter? What would you know about that way i write. You are just a person on the other side reading what i write with no emotion. You don't know anything.

Hitman,
as I explained to you before, there are many inconsistencies in your posts, your playing, understanding and now writing style. I think you are reading us very wrongly - if there was no emotion we would not bother at all.

Maybe really a troll just trying to play with TMers. I guess you do have an audience..................

Hitman0042 · 09-06-2008, 05:43 AM

Maybe. You wouldn't know. Maybe you are a troll rowuk we don't know?

Fidel · 09-06-2008, 08:04 AM

An old school brass instrument repair man said take the valve out, put some Brasso on it, put it back in with the bottom of the valve into the bottom of the valve casing and GENTLY lap it in. Not too much.
As Brasso is a cleaning agent and mildly abrasive it gets all the crap or imperfections out.
Give the horn a good bath and clean with a snake, rinse it out to make sure it's spotless.
I did this on a Conn 80A cornet that had newly replated valves. The first valve was slow to return. This method worked an absolute treat, no more slow valves!
The key is to be gentle and don't overdo it, essentially you are just cleaning it and making sure the surfaces of valve and casing like each other.
You should NOT approach it as though you are abrading these surfaces although in reality that's what you're doing VERY slightly.
Cheaply made horns are another thing. I have seen some very dubious creations that do not even qualify as musical instruments. These should be totally avoided as they are beyond help and should be banned.

tedh1951 · 09-06-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidel

An old school brass instrument repair man said take the valve out, put some Brasso on it, put it back in with the bottom of the valve into the bottom of the valve casing and GENTLY lap it in. Not too much.
As Brasso is a cleaning agent and mildly abrasive it gets all the crap or imperfections out.
Give the horn a good bath and clean with a snake, rinse it out to make sure it's spotless.
I did this on a Conn 80A cornet that had newly replated valves. The first valve was slow to return. This method worked an absolute treat, no more slow valves!
The key is to be gentle and don't overdo it, essentially you are just cleaning it and making sure the surfaces of valve and casing like each other.
You should NOT approach it as though you are abrading these surfaces although in reality that's what you're doing VERY slightly.
Cheaply made horns are another thing. I have seen some very dubious creations that do not even qualify as musical instruments. These should be totally avoided as they are beyond help and should be banned.

DO NOT USE BRASSO - it is much much too coarse for this job - even a Chinese instrument does not deserve that sort of abuse - use jeweller's rouge by preference, or as I do - normal toothpaste. Toothpaste is a polish with a very fine grit - it will be a little more difficult to wash out than rouge or Brasso, but it does work and does the minimum damage. Yes, what you're intending will take metal off - so you are damaging the instrument ever so slightly. Turn the valve 1/8 of a turn as you push it gently into the valve casing and turn it back that same 1/8 as you draw it out - try 50 repetitions - that should be enough. Mixing the toothpaste with a bit of valve oil (it won't actually mix) helps provide a reasonable carry for the abrasive. Take extreme care.

tedh1951 · 09-06-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman0042

Maybe. You wouldn't know. Maybe you are a troll rowuk we don't know?

Not at all likely - everything ROWUK offers can be substantiated.

Decentplayer · 09-06-2008, 12:55 PM

Rowuk is an esteemed member of TM.

mystrumpet · 09-06-2008, 02:05 PM

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Rowuk is an esteemed member of TM.

Just ask Huggy Bear! ;)

09-06-2008, 03:51 AM	#93 (permalink)
Hitman0042 Banned Piano User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 287	Re: Problem with Valve 1? Thank you!

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09-06-2008, 08:04 AM	#96 (permalink)
Fidel New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7	Re: Problem with Valve 1? An old school brass instrument repair man said take the valve out, put some Brasso on it, put it back in with the bottom of the valve into the bottom of the valve casing and GENTLY lap it in. Not too much. As Brasso is a cleaning agent and mildly abrasive it gets all the crap or imperfections out. Give the horn a good bath and clean with a snake, rinse it out to make sure it's spotless. I did this on a Conn 80A cornet that had newly replated valves. The first valve was slow to return. This method worked an absolute treat, no more slow valves! The key is to be gentle and don't overdo it, essentially you are just cleaning it and making sure the surfaces of valve and casing like each other. You should NOT approach it as though you are abrading these surfaces although in reality that's what you're doing VERY slightly. Cheaply made horns are another thing. I have seen some very dubious creations that do not even qualify as musical instruments. These should be totally avoided as they are beyond help and should be banned.

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Decentplayer Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 891	Re: Problem with Valve 1? Rowuk is an esteemed member of TM. __________________

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