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[quote=screamingmorris;386379]Morris is right - we do not need slander here. I request that NOBODY starts to pile on here! That would unnecessarily cause the thread to degenerate. Let's keep on topic. I think there is no reason to get into an issue on free speech (which is not free by the way) in this thread. We all generally know what is offensive to most people and attaching a famous name to a phrase does not legitimate it. There is a place for those issues and it is not HERE in the general trumpet forum. Please do not start splitting hairs. We all know what the issue is. I take my moderation abilities very seriously. We have reached the limit.

Calling oneself "christian" does not mean anything in the business sense. Every customer (and seller) needs to take measures to protect themselves. If the store owners feel a need to chime in with their side, we are an open forum.

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veery715

I am not attempting to pile on here. We all know that nothing is a sure sign of anything. Simplistic, stereotypical characterizations inevitably cause more harm than good, and can serve no constructive purpose. We must behave like adults, and that is a reasonable request, IMO.

It is very easy to let your fingers to the talking and hit Submit before, as Wilmer Wiseone puts it, putting brain in gear. And words, once posted, have the potential to offend, even if that is not the intent of the poster. Editing after the fact is too late. We are "here" to share with others our love of and experience and "obsesssion" with all things trumpet, and we stand a great deal more to gain if we don't push other's buttons or drive them away. Kindness and consideration are as vital to this forum as embouchure and breathing and practicing are to what we seek from playing the trumpet.

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Bill McCloskey

My comments have nothing to do with offending anyone and everything to do with common sense in protecting yourself. Religious language IS a sure sign of a scam. That doesn't follow that everyone using religious language is trying to defraud, but in almost every case of this type of fraud that I know of, the scammer used religion to create a false sense of security. It is a fact. As the poster implied: he was lulled into a false sense of security because they seemed religious. This is a ploy that needs to be publicized for the sake of protecting the innocent or naive.

If you need to direct your indignation at someone: try the repair shop that caused the problem in the first place.

screamingmorris

You contradict yourself in those first 2 sentences.
The first sentence is absurd, the second sentence is common sense.

In the third sentence,
you pretend to know that a repair shop used a "ploy",
but you really know no such thing,
since they might actually be adherents of that religion
but extremely poor examples of that religion.

This is a trumpet forum, so we should keep the subject on trumpets, not on the alleged religions (or lack thereof) of people.

- Morris

lmf

Whether a business is operated by people who are Christians, or from other religions, and/or no religion at all, you should get a quote for services in writing and research the reputation of the dealer.

It has little to do with religion, but more with adhering to common sense. Cover yourself - do your research - get the cost of repairs and restoration in writing - follow up.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

Bill McCloskey

Whatever Morris. Believe what you want. I'll say what is necessary to keep people from being defrauded. Ignore my posts if they bother you.

MJ

Hey guys, Let's get off the topic of religion and get back to trumpet. How about we come up with some ideas for where he can send his horn when he gets it back (hopefully)

Charlie Melk
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nordlandstrompet

hmmmmmm?

This thread started as a warning about sending your horns away?

And ends in a discussion about religion?

Seems like this thread has too much fast air

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MJ

I already said lets drop it Morris.

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