So what's wrong with China? - Page 2

Billy B · 11-12-2007, 10:30 AM

Kind of like the working conditions in the USA 100 years ago.

confuoco · 11-12-2007, 10:43 AM

There was a fabulous show on I believe PBS that followed a couple of Chinese girls who were employed by a shop in china that turned out products for the US market. Did anyone else see it? I forget the title of the program but it was eye opening and disturbing.

westview1900 · 11-12-2007, 10:59 AM

If the USA government passes legislation barring imports from totalitarian governments, it must be careful not to allow protectionist interests to influence this legislation. I hope that some day labor unions are allowed to operate freely in every country to bargain for fair wages so that there is no unfair opportunity for the haves to live off the have nots.
On a side note, the USA is not totally immune from criticism. It incarcerates more people per capita than any other country.
NationMaster - Prisoners > Per capita (most recent) by country

It also employs many of those prisoners to make things such as office furniture and textiles.
www.unicor.gov - UNICOR - Federal Prison Industries

This in a fair market, depresses the prices for these items since the price of labor is artificially low.
The USA is a great country, but if you look deep enough, you can see there are flaws here as well.

Mark Bradley · 11-12-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by westview1900

On a side note, the USA is not totally immune from criticism. It incarcerates more people per capita than any other country.

Of course the US is nor should be immune from critcism, but it seems the implicaton you make is that those incarcerated are innocent-- put there by an oppressive (?) government, simply because they are a minority or whatever. The reason for so many in jail is because there are more criminals, more crime. I blame them (the criminals!) and the culture that fosters it. But sure, crime and violence in America is nothing to be proud about.

Just as an aside, I remember while in Japan some years ago a friend forgot his backpack on a bench inside a train station. Naturally we all wrote it off-- long gone. Our platoon came back through the station a couple of days later and we were stunned to find that it was still there were he left it, untouched. A culture thing.

westview1900 · 11-12-2007, 07:58 PM

I think you may be right.
NationMaster - American Crime statistics

tatakata · 11-13-2007, 11:04 PM

Is this the PBS show you were talking about confuoco

Independent Lens . CHINA BLUE . The Film | PBS

confuoco · 11-13-2007, 11:50 PM

That is the one. Very interesting! Well worth a watch!

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westview1900 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 149	Re: So what's wrong with China? If the USA government passes legislation barring imports from totalitarian governments, it must be careful not to allow protectionist interests to influence this legislation. I hope that some day labor unions are allowed to operate freely in every country to bargain for fair wages so that there is no unfair opportunity for the haves to live off the have nots. On a side note, the USA is not totally immune from criticism. It incarcerates more people per capita than any other country. NationMaster - Prisoners > Per capita (most recent) by country It also employs many of those prisoners to make things such as office furniture and textiles. www.unicor.gov - UNICOR - Federal Prison Industries This in a fair market, depresses the prices for these items since the price of labor is artificially low. The USA is a great country, but if you look deep enough, you can see there are flaws here as well.

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