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Matt Funamura · 05-04-2008, 02:53 AM

I don't really care. I'm not giving up the trumpet. I agree with the first reply. Just go to the doctor if something's wrong and take care of yourself!

P.S. I've heard enough of these things. If you really want to scare yourself, go to medscape.com and search for "maladies in musicians"

Matt

Majestic1 · 05-05-2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BflatMD

I couldn't resist contributing as I am a trumpet player and also a doctor (rather better doc than player, I'm afraid)

The Valsalva Manoeuvre occurs every time you breathe out against pressure, so you're right it must happen when you're playing the trumpet (or any other wind instrument), whether it be correctly or otherwise, and whether you play high, middle or low. The higher the note the higher the pressure and therefore the more likely you are to experience a drop in blood flowing to the brain. So you could say that the chance of blood flow falling to the point where you faint is greater the longer you play high.

But most of the time your body takes this sort of thing in its stride. It's designed for fluctuating blood pressures and, within reason, these really don't usually do much harm in the long term (I've never heard, for example, of it reducing your IQ). Straining to pass stool is likely to have a much greater effect on your cerebral blood flow.

The risk of aneurysms bursting because of raised pressure inside the head is real, but again pretty small unless you already know you have one. Circular breathing leads to a build-up of carbon dioxide - now that really is bad for you, but again, only if you do it a lot.

I have to say I would never advise a patient to give up a wind instrument, or even playing high, loud and long, just because of worries about cerebral blood flow. But I might if this was combined with several actual episodes of faints or dizziness. And I certainly would if someone knew they had an aneurysm.

The real risks to health from being a trumpet player ? Smoking, or being around smokers, and drinking too much. Oh, and being attacked by unsympathetic listeners.

Excellent post!!

Edit: For those who want a correct term for web searching, the term you used is not correct. It is spelled, Valsalva Maneuver.

Thank you

tapia15 · 05-08-2008, 07:56 PM

I'm experiencing some of the same symptons like a fall in blood pressure, feeling light headed while playing, oh yah and last week i almost fainted in class in the middle of a song when playing the high A's. This has been happening for a couple months now when my band director gave us a new piece to play at contest which is now next saturday and i'm like so stressing out about it, and really I thought it might be that I need to practice more. I'm not sure.

wiseone2 · 05-08-2008, 09:35 PM

How many trumpet players have died with their horn in their hands?
Doc, Bud, Maurice, Diz, Adolph Scherbaum, Manny Klein and many others have had long careers blowing into the dangerous instrument, the trumpet.
Wilmer

BflatMD · 05-09-2008, 03:36 PM

Hi. That's my British accent. 'Maneuver' is the American spelling so you're right that if you want US pages you should use that. Either is correct.

BflatMD · 05-09-2008, 03:40 PM

PS light-headness may be related simply to over-breathing (which drops your carbon dioxide levels). Especially if - like me - you tend to breathe too fast and shallow when nervous.

Ed Kennedy · 05-09-2008, 07:45 PM

I recall a tabloid article about an Italian trumpet player named Ugo Solari whose head exploded during a trumpet solo, showering the front tables with brain matter. I think Terry Warburton claimed responsibility for that one.

Ed Kennedy · 05-09-2008, 07:50 PM

Leon Merian was involved in a glaucoma study. He found that there was a significant increase in intraocular pressure when playing in the upper register. I believe that he published an article about it in the ITG Journal a few years ago. That didn't stop him from playing well past his 83rd birthday.

BflatMD · 05-10-2008, 03:39 AM

I suppose you'd have to conclude that professional trumpet playing is a high-pressure job...

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05-04-2008, 02:53 AM	#172 (permalink)
Matt Funamura New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boston/Sacramento Posts: 22	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I don't really care. I'm not giving up the trumpet. I agree with the first reply. Just go to the doctor if something's wrong and take care of yourself! P.S. I've heard enough of these things. If you really want to scare yourself, go to medscape.com and search for "maladies in musicians" Matt Last edited by Matt Funamura; 05-04-2008 at 02:55 AM.

05-08-2008, 07:56 PM	#174 (permalink)
tapia15 New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tacoma Posts: 1	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I'm experiencing some of the same symptons like a fall in blood pressure, feeling light headed while playing, oh yah and last week i almost fainted in class in the middle of a song when playing the high A's. This has been happening for a couple months now when my band director gave us a new piece to play at contest which is now next saturday and i'm like so stressing out about it, and really I thought it might be that I need to practice more. I'm not sure.

05-08-2008, 09:35 PM	#175 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,376	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. How many trumpet players have died with their horn in their hands? Doc, Bud, Maurice, Diz, Adolph Scherbaum, Manny Klein and many others have had long careers blowing into the dangerous instrument, the trumpet. Wilmer __________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

05-09-2008, 03:36 PM	#176 (permalink)
BflatMD New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cowbridge, Wales, UK Posts: 4	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Hi. That's my British accent. 'Maneuver' is the American spelling so you're right that if you want US pages you should use that. Either is correct.

05-09-2008, 03:40 PM	#177 (permalink)
BflatMD New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cowbridge, Wales, UK Posts: 4	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. PS light-headness may be related simply to over-breathing (which drops your carbon dioxide levels). Especially if - like me - you tend to breathe too fast and shallow when nervous.

05-09-2008, 07:45 PM	#178 (permalink)
Ed Kennedy Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 62	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I recall a tabloid article about an Italian trumpet player named Ugo Solari whose head exploded during a trumpet solo, showering the front tables with brain matter. I think Terry Warburton claimed responsibility for that one.

05-09-2008, 07:50 PM	#179 (permalink)
Ed Kennedy Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 62	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Leon Merian was involved in a glaucoma study. He found that there was a significant increase in intraocular pressure when playing in the upper register. I believe that he published an article about it in the ITG Journal a few years ago. That didn't stop him from playing well past his 83rd birthday.

05-10-2008, 03:39 AM	#180 (permalink)
BflatMD New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cowbridge, Wales, UK Posts: 4	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I suppose you'd have to conclude that professional trumpet playing is a high-pressure job...

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