Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. - Page 2

Majestic1 · 12-12-2007, 11:52 AM

Rowuk,

One more point about Valsalva Maneuver (VM) in your statement of this condition not have been documented. There are innumerable trumpet players who have had, are having and will have heart problems and most of them could be due to having his subjecting his heart for many hours, every day for many years to this very strenuous task (VM).

wiseone2 · 12-12-2007, 11:53 AM

Wow!
Does this mean no more piccolo trumpet playing after the age of 40?
I was in my late forties when I played WSS, I could have died on TV........WOW

Bud was in his 70s when he retired, maybe a warning should be placed on the parts.
Save our older players!
Wilmer -a lucky trumpet player........should I cancel the Messiah I have on Saturday?

wiseone2 · 12-12-2007, 11:59 AM

I am calling Jerry Callet right now. He's been playing deafening quad Cs for the last thirty years. He has to be at least 75. He doesn't know the danger he's in. Maybe I should call EMS first and give them his address.
Wilmer

Vulgano Brother · 12-12-2007, 12:05 PM

Once, when playing a funk gig, I took part of Tower of Power's In the Slot up an octave. I sort of passed out and fell over backwards. The crowd loved it, and I got to experience a mighty powerful head rush.

Does this mean that horns and mouthpieces will need to carry a warning label in the future?

Majestic1 · 12-12-2007, 12:14 PM

Wise1,

It goes without saying that with a lack of blood to the brain, one not only faints but if this is a continued condition through lots of years, lots of hours, etc since a young age until old age, it appears that one becomes low in scholastic achievements, slow in thinking and sometimes down right impertinent.

wiseone2 · 12-12-2007, 12:16 PM

Well said.
What size mouthpiece do you use?
Wilmer

Brekelefuw · 12-12-2007, 12:22 PM

Doc Cheatham played into his mid 90's.

RG111 · 12-12-2007, 01:44 PM

I don't know about the rest of you, but I wouldn't quit playing to live an extra ten years!
Roy

confuoco · 12-12-2007, 02:56 PM

Majestic I think you might have a better chance of being hit by lightening. Why bring this up. Do you know someone first hand that this has happened to on a gig.

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Originally Posted by Majestic1

Playing long, hard and high may invoke the Valsalva Maneuver whereby one may effect the fall in blood pressure resulting in dizziness and even fainting. As the pressure inside the chest rises, blood is forced out of pulmonary circulation into the left atrium causing a mild rise in blood pressure. The pressure in the chest impedes the return of blood back into the heart. Subsequently, the output of the heart is reduced and blood pressure falls. When the chest pressure is released, this allows the pulmonary vessels and aorta to re-expand causing a further initial slight fall in blood pressure due to decreased left ventricular return and increased aortic volume, respectively. Blood return to the heart is enhanced by the effect of entry of blood which had been dammed back, causing a rapid increase in cardiac output and of blood pressure. The pressure usually rises above normal before returning to a normal level. Deviation from this response pattern signifies either abnormal heart function or abnormal automatic nervous control of the heart.

wilcox96 · 12-12-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiseone2

Well said.
What size mouthpiece do you use?
Wilmer

....priceless...

As for what to do for Jerry Callet (or maybe "every" trumpet player on your holiday list??)... how about the "Life Alert" necklace!!!

12-12-2007, 11:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
Majestic1 New Friend Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Rowuk, One more point about Valsalva Maneuver (VM) in your statement of this condition not have been documented. There are innumerable trumpet players who have had, are having and will have heart problems and most of them could be due to having his subjecting his heart for many hours, every day for many years to this very strenuous task (VM).
Majestic1 New Friend Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38

12-12-2007, 11:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,188	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Wow! Does this mean no more piccolo trumpet playing after the age of 40? I was in my late forties when I played WSS, I could have died on TV........WOW Bud was in his 70s when he retired, maybe a warning should be placed on the parts. Save our older players! Wilmer -a lucky trumpet player........should I cancel the Messiah I have on Saturday?
	__________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

12-12-2007, 11:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,188	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I am calling Jerry Callet right now. He's been playing deafening quad Cs for the last thirty years. He has to be at least 75. He doesn't know the danger he's in. Maybe I should call EMS first and give them his address. Wilmer
	__________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

12-12-2007, 12:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 2,963	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Once, when playing a funk gig, I took part of Tower of Power's In the Slot up an octave. I sort of passed out and fell over backwards. The crowd loved it, and I got to experience a mighty powerful head rush. Does this mean that horns and mouthpieces will need to carry a warning label in the future?
	__________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

12-12-2007, 12:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Majestic1 New Friend Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Wise1, It goes without saying that with a lack of blood to the brain, one not only faints but if this is a continued condition through lots of years, lots of hours, etc since a young age until old age, it appears that one becomes low in scholastic achievements, slow in thinking and sometimes down right impertinent.
Majestic1 New Friend Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38

12-12-2007, 12:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,188	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Well said. What size mouthpiece do you use? Wilmer
	__________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

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Brekelefuw Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 895	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Doc Cheatham played into his mid 90's.

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RG111 Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 261	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I don't know about the rest of you, but I wouldn't quit playing to live an extra ten years! Roy
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