Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. - Page 8

Majestic1 · 12-26-2007, 11:51 AM

rowuk,

If you are so sure that this research has been done please direct us to it. I only know what my lung doctor told me and who am I to question his training and experience by asking for statistics?

Concerning the Oboe, that’s my point exactly…this type of wind instruments should only be played by the young players. I wish your daughter all the best in playing the Oboe. As to the Oboe players I have seen, I have seen a face that’s red with popping eyes and veins and so my eyes are relating this message to my ears.

As to your other comments, I can understand one getting upset when faced with a problem that they had no idea about before. It’s like a person who has suffered a lack of sufficient blood to the brain most of their life and are use to being mildly retarded and get all upset when someone comes around and tells what may cause retardation. Rather then bury ones head in the sand, it’s best to face it and deal with it. This is what internet has done….break peoples bubbles so that they can face reality. If it bothers you, you don’t have to read it or consider it another plan to move forward. The choice is yours.

Yes, whenever you feel blue, you should start breathing again for you might be suffering from VM.

veery715 · 12-26-2007, 12:31 PM

I have known many oboists. Some DO get red, but some don't. My brother-in-law retired as principal oboe in the LA Phil., after a succesful and long career. He never looked particularly red-faced, and now at about 60 is still fit and surfs whenever he can. The most important thing a wind player (or any musician) can do when not playing or practicing, is to keep fit. Exercise benefits all of the body, including lungs, heart AND BRAIN.

Vulgano Brother · 12-26-2007, 02:24 PM

My experience measuring my own blood pressure has shown the following: my blood pressure does not change when I pressurize myself internally, as when playing. A test group of one, to be sure, so not very scientific at all.

The valsalva manuever usually involves a closed glottis, trumpet playing does not, and we are talking about something in the 10.67-31.33 kPa range for the valsalva manuever. Trumpet playing is in the 2.0-5.0 kPa range.

A fun read:

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/ava...ted/thesis.pdf

westview1900 · 12-26-2007, 08:07 PM

If, in fact, trumpet playing my be hazardous to one's health, why hasn't the Surgeon General warned me of this?

veery715 · 12-26-2007, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westview1900

If, in fact, trumpet playing my be hazardous to one's health, why hasn't the Surgeon General warned me of this?

The Surgeon General says: For some individuals, playing the trumpet may be a health hazard. Send a tape of your playing to: SG, PO Box 12345, Washington DC, and you will be advised if this applies to you. Meanwhile wear a hardhat when playing.

_TrumpeT_ · 12-26-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majestic1

rowuk,

If you are so sure that this research has been done please direct us to it. I only know what my lung doctor told me and who am I to question his training and experience by asking for statistics?

Concerning the Oboe, that’s my point exactly…this type of wind instruments should only be played by the young players. I wish your daughter all the best in playing the Oboe. As to the Oboe players I have seen, I have seen a face that’s red with popping eyes and veins and so my eyes are relating this message to my ears.

As to your other comments, I can understand one getting upset when faced with a problem that they had no idea about before. It’s like a person who has suffered a lack of sufficient blood to the brain most of their life and are use to being mildly retarded and get all upset when someone comes around and tells what may cause retardation. Rather then bury ones head in the sand, it’s best to face it and deal with it. This is what internet has done….break peoples bubbles so that they can face reality. If it bothers you, you don’t have to read it or consider it another plan to move forward. The choice is yours.

Yes, whenever you feel blue, you should start breathing again for you might be suffering from VM.

Are you saying that trumpet players are retarded in general?

andredub · 12-26-2007, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _TrumpeT_

Are you saying that trumpet players are retarded in general?

Was there ever any doubt? ^_^

Vulgano Brother · 12-26-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _TrumpeT_

Are you saying that trumpet players are retarded in general?

I would propose that trumpeters are more credulous than most sentient life forms. Soccer, for example, causes more real brain damage than trumpet playing does heart damage. Those headers really scramble things up! This is why Vulgani the world over are patrons of safer sports, like professional wrestling.

ccNochops · 12-27-2007, 08:32 AM

"As to the Oboe players I have seen, I have seen a face that’s red with popping eyes and veins"...........Electric Oboe Jazz, it's a scary thing to see. This Valve-saliva thing is also why there are no piccolo tubas.....way to much pressure involved, couldn't keep valve caps on the fool thing

westview1900 · 12-27-2007, 11:40 AM

Rafael Mendez wrote that brass playing is good for your health:
Prelude to Brass Playing - Google Book Search

12-26-2007, 11:51 AM	#71 (permalink)
Majestic1 New Friend Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. rowuk, If you are so sure that this research has been done please direct us to it. I only know what my lung doctor told me and who am I to question his training and experience by asking for statistics? Concerning the Oboe, that’s my point exactly…this type of wind instruments should only be played by the young players. I wish your daughter all the best in playing the Oboe. As to the Oboe players I have seen, I have seen a face that’s red with popping eyes and veins and so my eyes are relating this message to my ears. As to your other comments, I can understand one getting upset when faced with a problem that they had no idea about before. It’s like a person who has suffered a lack of sufficient blood to the brain most of their life and are use to being mildly retarded and get all upset when someone comes around and tells what may cause retardation. Rather then bury ones head in the sand, it’s best to face it and deal with it. This is what internet has done….break peoples bubbles so that they can face reality. If it bothers you, you don’t have to read it or consider it another plan to move forward. The choice is yours. Yes, whenever you feel blue, you should start breathing again for you might be suffering from VM.

12-26-2007, 12:31 PM	#72 (permalink)
veery715 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 720	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. I have known many oboists. Some DO get red, but some don't. My brother-in-law retired as principal oboe in the LA Phil., after a succesful and long career. He never looked particularly red-faced, and now at about 60 is still fit and surfs whenever he can. The most important thing a wind player (or any musician) can do when not playing or practicing, is to keep fit. Exercise benefits all of the body, including lungs, heart AND BRAIN. __________________ Music = Love Trumpets: Lawler Bb / Olds Recording / Schilke B2 Selmer Rad 2 / Yamaha 8310Z Holton MF ST 550S / Stage 1 California C Easyplay mini-trumpet (????) / Chinese Special / Benetone 1934 Cleveland (HN White) 603 Silver Plate w/ Gold Bell Kanstul ZKT 1525 Flugelhorn Cornets: Conn 36A / King Super 20 Master Olds Ambassador / Conn 18A King HN White 1904 Bb+A / Ohio Regent Soloist Conn 16E Eb/F Mellophone Piano, keyboards, vibes, congas, guitars, yada yada

12-26-2007, 02:24 PM	#73 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,290	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. My experience measuring my own blood pressure has shown the following: my blood pressure does not change when I pressurize myself internally, as when playing. A test group of one, to be sure, so not very scientific at all. The valsalva manuever usually involves a closed glottis, trumpet playing does not, and we are talking about something in the 10.67-31.33 kPa range for the valsalva manuever. Trumpet playing is in the 2.0-5.0 kPa range. A fun read: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/ava...ted/thesis.pdf __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

12-26-2007, 08:07 PM	#74 (permalink)
westview1900 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 195	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. If, in fact, trumpet playing my be hazardous to one's health, why hasn't the Surgeon General warned me of this?

12-27-2007, 08:32 AM	#79 (permalink)
ccNochops Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: White Marsh, VA Posts: 118	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. "As to the Oboe players I have seen, I have seen a face that’s red with popping eyes and veins"...........Electric Oboe Jazz, it's a scary thing to see. This Valve-saliva thing is also why there are no piccolo tubas.....way to much pressure involved, couldn't keep valve caps on the fool thing __________________ "I don't take my music lightly, I want it crushed by the horn section."

12-27-2007, 11:40 AM	#80 (permalink)
westview1900 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 195	Re: Trumpet Playing May Be Dangerous to Your Health. Rafael Mendez wrote that brass playing is good for your health: Prelude to Brass Playing - Google Book Search

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