Valve Oil Debate - Page 2

Manny Laureano · 07-25-2005, 09:22 AM

Ultra Pure isn't synthetic? Oops! Sorry, I thought it was... shows you how much attention I pay! What an idiot.. as far as my car, I just bought it a month ago and I'm not due for a change for another 8,000 miles so I'll let you know then!

ML

brian moon · 07-25-2005, 11:49 AM

I thought that I saw somwhere that Ultra Pure valve oil was 99% liquid wax paraffin which is the same as Ultra Pure lamp oil. Maybe I am wrong?

Solar Bell · 07-25-2005, 05:05 PM

According to the Ultra Pure website,

It IS a synthetic oil.

"Ultra-Pure Professional Valve Oil is an odorless, long-lasting, non-toxic synthetic lubricant developed to be the smoothest and most reliable valve oil you will ever find." (from the website)

Also, knowing trumpet players......they add

"If swallowed, Ultra-Pure Professional Valve Oil will most likely have a laxative effect. Just to be safe, call your doctor if a lot of oil is swallowed."

I'll have to try some. (in my horn)

-cw-

old geezer · 07-25-2005, 06:16 PM

I may be a little crazy[no comments please] but it seems to me that different oils seem to work better in different horns. some of the best oil that I ever used was some home made stuff that a friend of mine makes but stinks to high heaven. most of your oils before the synth. oils were de-scented kerosene. old geezer Dave

B15M · 07-25-2005, 07:48 PM

About four or five years ago I called Brasswind to get oil. I thought I would try an experiment. I bought five different kinds of oil. They were all the same. I could use any of them with the same results.

The only time I noticed a difference is when I got my Monette trumpet and the oil that came with it was remarkably better. I have given bottles to people that were going to give up on their trumpets because of sticky valves.

You have to wash the trumpet first to get all the old stuff off and you will have the best oil in the world.

"Ultra Pure"

upoils · 08-01-2005, 08:01 PM

Manny and others --
I am the manufacturer of Ultra-Pure Professional Valve Oil. As one of you has mentioned, it is synthetic. It has nothing to do with the lamp oil with a similar name (Ultra-Pure Lamp Oil). Check out my website for information and customer endorsements, including those from Wynton Marsalis, Arturo Sandoval, Dave Douglas, and many other great players. I would love to hear from you! Write to upoils@hotmail.com.

Thanks,
Ken Saul,
Owner Ultra-Pure Oils
www.ultrapureoils.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

Ultra Pure isn't synthetic? Oops! Sorry, I thought it was... shows you how much attention I pay! What an idiot.. as far as my car, I just bought it a month ago and I'm not due for a change for another 8,000 miles so I'll let you know then!

ML

Solar Bell · 08-01-2005, 11:04 PM

Ken!

Welcome!

Just ordered some of your oil.

-cw-

davidjohnson · 08-02-2005, 05:04 AM

the best i've used was kerosene.

dj

DCB · 08-02-2005, 02:24 PM

I have been a Zaja user for years... Zaja blue is the most resent.... but I just got a order of Warburton PDQ. It smells bad but I like it better than the Zaja. One more thing about the PDQ is the bottle... not the best, so I put it in another bottle and all is great!
http://www.warburton-usa.com/accessorystore.htm

brian moon · 08-02-2005, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upoils

Manny and others --
I am the manufacturer of Ultra-Pure Professional Valve Oil. As one of you has mentioned, it is synthetic. It has nothing to do with the lamp oil with a similar name (Ultra-Pure Lamp Oil). Check out my website for information and customer endorsements, including those from Wynton Marsalis, Arturo Sandoval, Dave Douglas, and many other great players. I would love to hear from you! Write to upoils@hotmail.com.

Thanks,
Ken Saul,
Owner Ultra-Pure Oils
www.ultrapureoils.com

Thanks a lot for the clarification. Sorry I had it wrong. Now I have to remember where I saw the incorrect information.

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07-25-2005, 11:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
brian moon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bloomfield Township, Mich Posts: 566	I thought that I saw somwhere that Ultra Pure valve oil was 99% liquid wax paraffin which is the same as Ultra Pure lamp oil. Maybe I am wrong? __________________ Revelation 3:20

07-25-2005, 05:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Solar Bell Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 4,405	According to the Ultra Pure website, It IS a synthetic oil. "Ultra-Pure Professional Valve Oil is an odorless, long-lasting, non-toxic synthetic lubricant developed to be the smoothest and most reliable valve oil you will ever find." (from the website) Also, knowing trumpet players......they add "If swallowed, Ultra-Pure Professional Valve Oil will most likely have a laxative effect. Just to be safe, call your doctor if a lot of oil is swallowed." I'll have to try some. (in my horn) -cw- __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan

07-25-2005, 06:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
old geezer Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indianapolis,In. Posts: 174	I may be a little crazy[no comments please] but it seems to me that different oils seem to work better in different horns. some of the best oil that I ever used was some home made stuff that a friend of mine makes but stinks to high heaven. most of your oils before the synth. oils were de-scented kerosene. old geezer Dave __________________ L.A.Benge 2ML 16389 L.A.Benge 2MLP 11745 K- Allmen 1414 Yamaha 231 Flugel 15383 Olds Amb. Cornet 50734

08-01-2005, 11:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
Solar Bell Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 4,405	Ken! Welcome! Just ordered some of your oil. -cw- __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan

07-25-2005, 09:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Ultra Pure isn't synthetic? Oops! Sorry, I thought it was... shows you how much attention I pay! What an idiot.. as far as my car, I just bought it a month ago and I'm not due for a change for another 8,000 miles so I'll let you know then! ML

07-25-2005, 07:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
B15M Forte User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Monroe Ct. Posts: 1,338	About four or five years ago I called Brasswind to get oil. I thought I would try an experiment. I bought five different kinds of oil. They were all the same. I could use any of them with the same results. The only time I noticed a difference is when I got my Monette trumpet and the oil that came with it was remarkably better. I have given bottles to people that were going to give up on their trumpets because of sticky valves. You have to wash the trumpet first to get all the old stuff off and you will have the best oil in the world. "Ultra Pure"

08-02-2005, 05:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
davidjohnson Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: arkansas Posts: 377	the best i've used was kerosene. dj

08-02-2005, 02:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
DCB Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: N. Florida Posts: 157	I have been a Zaja user for years... Zaja blue is the most resent.... but I just got a order of Warburton PDQ. It smells bad but I like it better than the Zaja. One more thing about the PDQ is the bottle... not the best, so I put it in another bottle and all is great! http://www.warburton-usa.com/accessorystore.htm __________________ dcb <>< John 14:6 Kanstul/ Najoom French Besson Holton Collegiate Conn 80A Amati flugelhorn

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