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Old 07-16-2007, 11:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Just think about an old TV, Dale, and you could be enlightened.
Stop.....you're only confusing me.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Verticle Valve alignment @ home
Brian,
I don't think the semantics are significant, aligning in only one plane with corks and felts (perhaps technically incorrect but for the lay person understandable as up and down which is a vertical motion) is probably better than nothing at all. Aligning by rotation (left/right which to the lay person represents a horizontal movement) or custom valve guides is something for a pro. At the end of the day, we just want the horn to play better - or believe that it does anyway.

Bob Reeves avoids "horizontal" and "vertical". He just uses the terminology up- and downstroke. The BrassBow ( The Brass Bow Music Co. ) uses the lay terminology.

Vertical Hold on my old TV stopped an up and down rolling of the picture.
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Okay, so let's talk new horns....
...like my Getzen 900S. Shouldn't the horn come from the factory in perfect alignment? Or am I just dreaming? I can understand my old cornet & trumpet from the 60's having the felts worn out from all those blistering scale practices through the years, but my new horn.....an alignment already? Haven't dropped in a pot hole yet, should be good to go..... ..chuck
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Why don't we have to adjust the TV any more?
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Modern TVs have huge circuits on chips which provide those adjustments automatically, programmed to maintain the paramenters needed to prevent V & H roll. One old TV we had needed a kick in the underside to do it.
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So on a rotary is vertical alignment horizontal and vice versa? Or am I just twisted.....?
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...like my Getzen 900S. Shouldn't the horn come from the factory in perfect alignment? Or am I just dreaming? I can understand my old cornet & trumpet from the 60's having the felts worn out from all those blistering scale practices through the years, but my new horn.....an alignment already? Haven't dropped in a pot hole yet, should be good to go..... ..chuck
Depends on the manufacturer. Many times very tight tolerances increase the chance of a malfuntion. Super tight valves could hang if sombody squeezed the valve cluster too tightly. We can expect "reasonable" on a mass produced horn. Tweeking costs money and time - and that is not good for shareholder value for companies mass producing horns..............
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So on a rotary is vertical alignment horizontal and vice versa? Or am I just twisted.....?
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It depends if your rotary is a Ganschhorn or not!
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It depends if your rotary is a Ganschhorn or not!
Not only ganschorns....my former trumpet teacher had a lechner rotary piccolo with upright action valves....
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Not only ganschorns....my former trumpet teacher had a lechner rotary piccolo with upright action valves....
Sansone made some regular Bb trumpets in that configuration.
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