what's a trumpet supposed to sound like? - Page 2

dbacon · 12-23-2003, 12:30 PM

Benny Bailey

Jimmy Maxwell

John Frosk

Jerry Hey

Danny Stiles

Woody Shaw

Charley Davis

Joe Newman

Wilmer Wise

chetbaker · 12-23-2003, 09:22 PM

dbacon,
You brought back found memories for me when you mentioned Danny Stiles in one of your lists! After Watrous left for the west coast Danny would put together a big band once a month, or so, to play various gigs in Rockland County, NY, which is where he was living at the time. Since he always fronted the band he would call me to play the lead book. I can't tell you how much I learned from Danny...not only through conversations, but by simply listening to him when he played! I would usually show up to the gig with either a different piece or horn...or both...and he would "bust my chops" about it all night!! He NEVER switched his equipment! He played a lacquered lightweight 72 bell Bach and a Giardinelli 7M piece...that's it!!! He could play ANYTHING on that combination...from the prettiest ballad to over-the top lead with screaming double C's. I really miss him!

Butch

dbacon · 12-24-2003, 12:34 AM

Danny Stiles is one of the greatest players ever, and completely without recognition! His prime NY days, recording with everyone from Thad and Mel to Manny Album then to some fame with Bill's Manhattan Wildlife Refuge. Remember Danny's cadenza on Dichotomy? Cats were working that out for years. "Ayo" written by Wayne Andre (I think). Watrous and Danny were sidekicks on so many sessions in those days. Totally underated player!

chetbaker · 12-24-2003, 09:48 AM

Dave,
AMEN!!!

Butch

richtom · 12-24-2003, 11:08 AM

How about: Harry Glantz
Raphael Mendez
Harry James
Maurice Murphy
Roger Voisin
Louis Armstrong
Gil Johnson
Bernie Adelstein
Frank Kaderabek
Rod Franks
Herb Alpert

Boy, the list could go on and on. That's what makes it fun, right? These guys played a mix of horns, too. Benges, Olds, Selmers, Bachs, and who knows what else.

jamesfrmphilly · 12-24-2003, 01:32 PM

i do notice a lack of Monette players here.
what does this mean?

dbacon · 12-24-2003, 02:24 PM

Maybe they're working.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesfrmphilly

i do notice a lack of Monette players here.
what does this mean?

jamesfrmphilly · 12-24-2003, 05:42 PM

when i was a boy i had to play a Bach Strad and a 1C which i hated at the time as it didn't sound "cool".
now I'm finding that Bach sound "is what a trumpet sounds like"
and I'm not liking the "dirty" tones so much anymore.
i must be getting olde 8) .

tom turner · 12-24-2003, 09:37 PM

Well,

Of all trumpets I've ever played, I enjoy the sound of the Wild Thing best . . . big, fat, dark and rich (unless I want to make it compact and bright with the #2 slide . . . or "split the difference" with the #3 or #4 slides).

Of course . . . y'all would not expect me to say anything else . . . and I was sayin' it long before representing the line!

Merry Christmas all,

Tom

Tootsall · 12-24-2003, 10:24 PM

A trumpet is supposed to sound.........like whatever you want to make it sound like! Now..go practice.

12-23-2003, 12:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
dbacon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 579	More Bach's Benny Bailey Jimmy Maxwell John Frosk Jerry Hey Danny Stiles Woody Shaw Charley Davis Joe Newman Wilmer Wise
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12-23-2003, 09:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
chetbaker Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: GEORGIA Posts: 138	what's a trumpet supposed to sound like? dbacon, You brought back found memories for me when you mentioned Danny Stiles in one of your lists! After Watrous left for the west coast Danny would put together a big band once a month, or so, to play various gigs in Rockland County, NY, which is where he was living at the time. Since he always fronted the band he would call me to play the lead book. I can't tell you how much I learned from Danny...not only through conversations, but by simply listening to him when he played! I would usually show up to the gig with either a different piece or horn...or both...and he would "bust my chops" about it all night!! He NEVER switched his equipment! He played a lacquered lightweight 72 bell Bach and a Giardinelli 7M piece...that's it!!! He could play ANYTHING on that combination...from the prettiest ballad to over-the top lead with screaming double C's. I really miss him! Butch
	__________________ Kanstul Mariachi Premier Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn Pieces - Warb. 6ESV top/Black #3 BB - Warb. 6FLM

12-24-2003, 12:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
dbacon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 579	Danny Stiles is one of the greatest players ever, and completely without recognition! His prime NY days, recording with everyone from Thad and Mel to Manny Album then to some fame with Bill's Manhattan Wildlife Refuge. Remember Danny's cadenza on Dichotomy? Cats were working that out for years. "Ayo" written by Wayne Andre (I think). Watrous and Danny were sidekicks on so many sessions in those days. Totally underated player!
	__________________ Dave Bacon

12-24-2003, 09:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
chetbaker Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: GEORGIA Posts: 138	what's a trumpet supposed to sound like? Dave, AMEN!!! Butch
	__________________ Kanstul Mariachi Premier Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn Pieces - Warb. 6ESV top/Black #3 BB - Warb. 6FLM

12-24-2003, 01:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
jamesfrmphilly Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the north philly ghetto Posts: 366	i do notice a lack of Monette players here. what does this mean?
	__________________ 1946 Martin Committee, Bach 5V

12-24-2003, 11:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
richtom Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 75	How about: Harry Glantz Raphael Mendez Harry James Maurice Murphy Roger Voisin Louis Armstrong Gil Johnson Bernie Adelstein Frank Kaderabek Rod Franks Herb Alpert Boy, the list could go on and on. That's what makes it fun, right? These guys played a mix of horns, too. Benges, Olds, Selmers, Bachs, and who knows what else.

12-24-2003, 05:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
jamesfrmphilly Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the north philly ghetto Posts: 366	when i was a boy i had to play a Bach Strad and a 1C which i hated at the time as it didn't sound "cool". now I'm finding that Bach sound "is what a trumpet sounds like" and I'm not liking the "dirty" tones so much anymore. i must be getting olde 8) .
	__________________ 1946 Martin Committee, Bach 5V

12-24-2003, 09:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Brand: F. Oakes tpts/flug/cornet Posts: 788	Well, Of all trumpets I've ever played, I enjoy the sound of the Wild Thing best . . . big, fat, dark and rich (unless I want to make it compact and bright with the #2 slide . . . or "split the difference" with the #3 or #4 slides). Of course . . . y'all would not expect me to say anything else . . . and I was sayin' it long before representing the line! Merry Christmas all, Tom

12-24-2003, 10:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	A trumpet is supposed to sound.........like whatever you want to make it sound like! Now..go practice.

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