Heavens2kadonka

Alright, heres another question: Do you know any good trumpet solos you think would work better on flugel?

Van

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Manny Laureano

Neruda?

ML

Heavens2kadonka

Another question (I'm full of them, sometimes)! What are the specs of this particular piece?

Van

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Van,

You've known me long enough now than to ask me anything like that!

I'm a content but ignorant player. I rarely know anything useful about physical dimensions. I just know whether I like it but sadly inept at being able to compare it to anything.

ML

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I only have two pieces specifically written for Flugel.

As Mike said Michael Nyman's Flugelhorn and piano. I haven't tried it yet in earnest but it looks quite challenging - especially the last 4 bars which are hemi demi semiquavers (1/32ths for the North Americans - I actually prefer their system to be honest - must be the mathematician in me coming out!) but the tempo is mm = 72. Mike could comment on the level of difficulty in bringing this to performance standard. I would be interested in your thoughts on this Mike. In the Uk this is published by Chester.

The other one is Concertino for Flugel Horn and Brass Band of which I have the piano reduction. I have tried this and it is, I think, easier than Nyman's piece and I quite like it. In the Uk this is published by Studio Music Company.

Of course there is lots of trumpet music that suits itself to flugelhorn and I know that's not what you were asking for, but I think Allen Vizutti's Sonata #2 is lovely on the flugel - especially the first movt. I think this is a great piece of music, and the piano accompianament is good too which my accompianist says is not always the case when an instrumentalist composes.

Pat - I haven't heard of the piece you menthion - what is the level of difficulty of that and what is the piece like?

Graham.

JackD

I'm amazed noones mentioned Joseph Turrins "Two Portraits" yet.

The first mvt is all flugel, and I'm doing that as part of my diploma recital in a few months time.

Gorgeous piece.

Heavens2kadonka

Mr. Laureano,

Apologies for me forgetting that you're not as geekish as I am.


Okay, guys. Lets continue the conversation.

I am not well-acquainted with many of these pieces mentioned (i.e., most all of them....), and so I am curious now as to how challenging these pieces are.

What is the max range these pieces take the player though? Any double/triple tongue? Demanding slur passages, time or key changes?

Van

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Himes' Concertino:

1st movt is mm96-108 and the tongued parts are semiquavers so single tonguing. 2nd movt is mm 48 and is a ballad. 3rd movt is fastish mm132 in six eight time and it accelarates about half way through and towards the end is a sustained high C which is as high as the piece goes. This is on the Diploma syllabus for ABRSM. This standard is supposed to be equivalent to someone after their first year of study at university.

Nyman's piece looks more challenging but I haven't tried it as yet so Mike is better to answer that for you. Looking at it though top B is the highest but it does look quite tricky at the end with a fast slurring passage. This is on the FRSM list which is the highest qualification from the ABRSM which is supposed to be equivalent in performace beyond degree level at Masters level.

Vizutti's Sonata #2 goes to high C and double tonguing will probably be required for the 3rd movt. I haven't looked at the 2nd and 3rd movts in detail yet - only the first one which is lovely mm 126. Not too challenging and very lyrical - it just flows along with some lovely rhythms and articulations. The whole Sonate is on the repertoire list at LRSM level which is supposed to be equivalent to when you finish a degree. The 3rd movt looks the most challenging of the 3 movts. The 2nd movt is the slow one as usual with the third the fastest as usual! I like the way Vizutti writes for trumpet though - his articulations and rhythms are really good.

I hope this helps and I am looking forward to hearing others opinions on the repertoire,

Graham.

BigBadWolf

Are semiquavers 1/8 notes? I knew at one time, but I have long forgotten.

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No - 1/4 notes = crotchets,
1/8 notes = quavers,
1/16 notes = semi quavers,
1/32 notes = demi semi quavers
1/64 notes = hemi demi semi quavers!!

I think your system is much better personally.

Graham.