Bay Area Brass

what????

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BrassOnLine

Comments like this doesn't help much to improve the image of noth-american.
Although I feel that I can discuss this comment deeper, thought it doesn't worth.
TrumpetMasters: Please, ignore the message of this user.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL !!!

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rowuk

The hungarian solo trumpet from the german Frankfurt Radio Symphony got the job at the Met and decided to go back to Germany after only a short while.

I do not think that we are talking about bias here. Cincinatti considers themselves to be a world class orchestra and are probably looking to steal experience from another major orchestra. If you do not fit that profile (a couple of years in one of those "major" orchestras), you do not get an invitation. Period.

Whether or not this practice is "fair" is not an issue. New York wanted to hear Charlier on a C trumpet and Boise dropped the ball on organisation. There are many stories about the consistency of the process and I see continuous proof that much more is involved than playing well.

As far as Brassmojos improper claim about whiners on this side of the pond, I guess he doesn't have any international experience. The remark is not based on any facts that I have access to. I am also not sure that Americans are happy about the way America does business either.

There are still quite a few Americans holding orchestra positions here in Europe. Ed Carroll could probably provide additional info about increasing your chances.

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Each "first-world" country has the luxury of producing more fine musicians than they have orchestral jobs for, and it is generally in the best interest of a country to have its own citizens employed before hiring guest workers.

Further, each orchestra has the right to set its own conditions for auditions; for orchestras operating under contracts negotiated by the American Federation of Musicians these conditions are part of the contracts ratified by the players.

Is all this fair? As a left-leaning-liberal: yeah, it is fair.

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alittlebirdy

Was the London Symphony willing to hear American players?

BrassOnLine

Unforunatelly for all, american and europeans, English orchestras NEVER want to hear foreign people (brasses and winds).
Could you belive they say "We are Europeans" ???
They're not, for sure.

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brianj

Interesting and unusual use of the word "NEVER". Just to be clear does the word "English" mean "British"? In the case of the BBC orchestras of course in makes no difference as the BBC is the same organisation across the UK.

So off the top of my head here's a list of foreign brass players in UK orchestras.

Philippe Schartz - (Luxembourg) - Principal Trumpet BBCNOW
Etienne Cutajar - (Malta) - horn - BBCSSO
Mark OKeefe - (Eire) - Principal Trumpet - BBCSSO
Eric Dunlea - (Eire) - Trumpet - BBCSSO
Cormac O'hAodain - (Eire) - Horn - Philharmonia
Donal Bannister - (Eire) - Bounemouth SO

Also in the past Barry Tuckwell (Australia) has been principal horn of the LSO and i seem to remember that a French or Swiss hornist was one of the principal horns at the LSO in the 80's (he'd previously been at the Orchestra of the Suisse Romande).

Currently there is a young Faroese trombone player (just entered his 2nd year at music college) who's getting trials with UK orchestras. He's had a trial with the Bournemouth SO and just finished a 3 week trial for Principal trombone of the Royal Scottish National Orchestra.

Wilmer heard this young man when he was on tour with a youth brass band in New York a few years back.

This doesn't look like a closed shop to me.

all the best

Brian Jones

brianj

Hi

There was a thread on the Trumpet Herald site titled "The Legend Maurice Murphy Retires" which said there were 7 players who got through to play with the LSO.

1 from the US
4 from the UK
2 from Denmark

Time will tell.

all the best

Brian Jones

ecarroll

Brian,

Leon Ni, American passport and all, was recently principal trombone at the Scottish Opera. He's now in the same position at the Orchestre Philharmonique du Luxembourg. You've cited many others (I love Mark O'Keeffe's playing, by the way, and his Irishness resonates with my own ancestry).

That said, the UK has such a strong tradition of brass and wind playing that it's rare that they have to look outside of their own.

Cheers,
EC