mattdalton

Good thread, Robert, your statement
reminded me of somehting that's a bit of a pet peeve of mine.

I can tolerate a fair amount of marks in regular black pencil, but find colored pencil (especially red) marks to be really distracting. Fortunately I don't come across it too often. We should all do our fellow trumpet players a favor and leave the colored pencils for use with coloring books and other art projects.

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Clarino

I don't see any reason to leave any pencil markings on the music after one is finished with it (except for the tagging thing that Wilmer mentioned, that's cool as long as it's nowhere near the dots). I really don't care what the previous guy thought needed to be highlighted. I'm a good enough musician to make my own markings, and I usually find there aren't that many needed (the important stuff is almost always printed on the page anyway). Why can't people just rub their notes out after the concert? It really doesn't take long.

It makes you laugh sometimes, it makes you cry sometimes. A few months ago I played Ravel's Bolero with a local orchestra. The last guy had written in all the notes transposed for a Bb trumpet (the parts are for trumpet in C). That wouldn't have bothered me, but he got it wrong! The notes were all written in a semi-tone up. I couldn't believe it! What's worse is that I didn't have time to rub them out before I played (in the first rehearsal) and it was very distracting. Funny though, the guy on first actually thought that they were correct and started playing them.

Sorry to rant, but a lot of these pencil markings actually make it harder to read the music. Which is a major problem when sightreading is so important in our game.

cornetguy

We did Koldy The Peacock a few years ago, all three of the parts where signed by the players that used them, including the orchestra that was on the recording that I bought to hear the piece (Milwaukee)

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cornetguy

The only markings I put in are:

Transposition reminders after long rests and I have messed it up more then once

Beat Markings in tricky rhythms

I call them the "cheat notes" after long rests or during the middle of them

Fingerings if using an alternate

Things that annoy me

Writing in the Bb transpositions (wrong) I spend a lot of time ereasing those, my opnion is if you think you have to do that, do it on a xerox not the original

markings that obliterate the music. if you are doing cuts or things, to mark them in ways that others can still read the music.

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trptcolin

Maybe the last guy decided to play it on B-natural trumpet!

Clarino

LOL! Yeah, that must have been it!

tpter1

Fingerings are a pet peeve. I've seen them on a few occasions, and sometimes they are wrong. They heavy markings that get in the way really get me, too. As do courtesy accidentals (you all know what I mean...placing a # next to a F even though it's already in the key signature because you had an F natural a few measures earlier). They just confuse me and usually I play it as a wrong note.

I'll add glasses, rest indicators at the top of the page, an arrow or star indicating a passage I had difficulty with so I can remember what to practice (then I erase it), any unsion pairings that may require a bit more or less dynamic (like with an oboe or bass trombone) or places where I am more independant and soloistic. I also write a number on then upper right that corresponds to program order and half (I-1, first half, first piece). I had my music in the wrong order once...not a nice feeling! Our conductor doesn't write in changes, so any changes we note along with a massive clicking of pencils on manhassett stands as we all put them back...love that sound.

Haven't ever seen the signature thing...I'll have to remember that one and come up with something.

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Fudleysmith

I make copies and mark LOTS of stuff, all in colored highlighter. I only use the individual colors for specific things (yellow = key change, red = sharp, blue = flat, etc...), so I don't have to read what I wrote, just see the color. My "oops" rate has gone way down, and I turn in the copies when the parts are collected (to prevent copyright issues). I wouldn't change it for anything, now that I have a repeatable system.

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wilcox96

About 1/2 of the touring Broadway show books have signatures on them of all who played that book. Usually, front or back cover. Sometimes, even notes to friends in other cities there! That may be a bit over the top for a book...but I've seen it...done it.

I guess it takes someone to start it...which is why some books don't have any names (either that or the books have been replaced..).

Talk about markings on book?? There may be nothing worse than some of those older Broadway books. (well, other than old R&B group charts, hahahahahaha). I understand folks wanting to do whatever it takes to remind them of things...but it sure can be distracting. Sorry..this is an Orchestral forum....! I went another direction!!

yeah...marking transpositions!! Baaaaddd!! :f: :g: :a:

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This would be a good time for Tootsall to relay Hoel's story about the burlesque show he played in....

Ed?????

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