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BW Mahler 5 1947 Part 1 of 2.zip
BW Mahler 5 1947 Part 2 of 2.zip

mono flacs

Mahler Sym # 5
Dr. B.W. Schleschinger
NY Philharmonic
James Chambers Cor Obligato
Feb 10, 1947
Carnegie Hall Recording Session



Principals

John Corigliano Concermaster

Flute John Wummer
Oboe Harold Gomberg
Clarinet Simeon Bellison
Fagott William Polisi
Horn James Chambers
William Namen
Marcus Fischer
Unknown Fourth
Joe Singer
Louis Ricci
Trumpet The Vach
Trombone Gordon Pulis
Bass Trombone Allan Ostrander
Tuba Billious Bellious
Timpani Saul Goodman

Enjoy

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rowuk

abbedd,
these historical excursions are all really cool stuff, but is it copyrighted? Are we in a gray (or red) zone of dispersing this stuff?

I am all for comprehensive resources, but also respect the artistic rights of the owners/performers. Can you enlighten me?

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abbedd

It is a very gray area. Outside the USA over 50 years and it is in the public domain. In the USA recordings before 1972 are not protected except for the master tape.

There is also fair use and education issues

This forum is not storing the files. Just passing on links.

It is up to you. Nobody seems to want to discuss these great recordings so it may become moot.

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trumpetdoc

With what application do you play a flac file?

abbedd

Winamp. With the proper plug in

You can also use flac front end or dbpoweramp to convert to wav

FLAC is lossless compression

For the MAC you will have to ask someone else

Unless you have your computer hooked up to your stereo,I suggest burning to CD. Nero can do that without conversion

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mikeblutman

This recording is readily available from Sony Classical. Dr. B.W. Schleschinger is Bruno Walter (B.W.). Mr. Vacchiano told me a story about this recording session. They did not splice any tape for these takes, just straight shoots of entire movements. They played the first movement and it was going great ... then Mr. V. missed some notes in the final muted passage and they had the do the whole movement over again! What is on the recording is the second time through. My favorite quote from the story is, "If you think that last muted part is hard ... try playing it the SECOND time around with disgruntled viola players looking back at you!"

MJ

Good story. Thanks!

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abbedd

Schlesinger was his real name

It is available on Sony yes. But in Rock and Roll type sound. Psychedelic trumpets with the harmonics boosted so badly that it is hard to believe they are trumpets and the naurual ambience of Carnegie not to be found. Audiophiles love that. They like to justify to their wives that they spent 10K on a set of speakers that cost 100 bucks to make

This recording proves one thing at the very least. That firing the trombone and horn sections in 1946 was the right thing to do.

Rodzinski picked two horn and bone sections in NY between 1937 and 1946 that had to be replaced. One at NBC and one at the Phil. He fired Bruno Jaenicke as Principal horn in 1943. From 1943-46 they had Rudy Puletz who could not play in tune nor hold a note steady. They got a big break in 1946 when James Chambers became available when Mason Jones came back from the Marine Band They also hired Gordon Pulis as Pricipal bone who was assistant principal bone in Phillly

After the first season at NBC, Toscanini was so displeased at the horn section Rodzinski picked that NBC went to Philly and offered three of their horns(The Berv Brothers) five times their salary to come to NBC

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