Why C Trumpet? - Page 7

Manny Laureano · 03-22-2006, 02:36 PM

I think you are right.

"The choices of horn, weight, mouthpiece, etc. today seem to make the sound between Bb's and C's very hard to notice."

The better C trumpets of today can have as much weight as the heretofore standard Bb sound, in some cases even more if you go to extremes.

ML

Manny Laureano · 03-22-2006, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veldkamp

Did we stiil talk about using 1 horn at a time ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9b7...search=trumpet

I love that one!

ML

gzent · 03-22-2006, 02:39 PM

He had me believing until he started playing out his nose...

tpter1 · 03-22-2006, 05:20 PM

I was on the floor! Don't share his mouthpieces!

Robert Rowe · 03-30-2006, 08:03 PM

I no longer do the "orchestral thing" (was principle Horn, many yrs ago).

I have had great fun in learning other instruments. I have a small combo -- play light-jazz, instrumental "pop", "Standards", originals. Usually, it is a 3-piece band. I play Trumpet, keyboards, guitar, banjo, bouzouki, mandolin, (some) bass. One of the other guys plays keys, sax, bass. We have a lot of versatility, with different sounds ... no drummer; we can get a lot of "percussive"-effects with acoustic instruments.

I have to work hard to learn to "move-around" (switch-off, as necessary) on the different instruments; therefore, I opt to use a C-Trumpet, in the interest of keeping it much simpler.

Sometimes, I will be "chording" on the organ with my left hand, while playing melody-lines on Trumpet with the right-hand (love to have a "pinky-ring", instead of a "pinky-hook"). I have done this on a Bb horn, but it is an "instant migraine", (plus, easy to screw-up).

The stringed instruments are pitched in "C", and the charts are easier to follow. Occasionally, a vocalist "stumbles" ... easy to "pick-up" the melody-line with the "C" horn.

I know I'm the "odd-ball" of the bunch, here.

Robert Rowe

Vulgano Brother · 04-25-2006, 03:03 PM

I use my piston C on Praise and Worship gigs. It sounds "Tower of Power" clean on the percussive stuff and lyrcal on the lyrical stuff and I don't have to transpose!

oldlou · 04-25-2006, 05:22 PM

If you are so sold on playing a C trumpet, how do I wangle you out of an old York Bb trumpet that I know that you own? Remember, I am an advanced senior citizen on a low fixed income. P'raps we can work a trade of some of my equipment for that old York?

OLDLOU>>

Robert Rowe · 04-25-2006, 06:08 PM

Hey, Lou --

"You taw-kin to me?" -- (Robert DeNiro-character line in the movie "Taxi Driver").

Must be me ... not many folks around here have old York Bb Trumpets. That horn "is a honey", I kid you not! I am crazy about that underslung 3rd valve slide set-up (like on my Blessing Super Artists and Couesnon Monopole "C").

Not too enthused about letting it go, but always interested in "dealin'" (can't help it -- I'm from New York).

Robt

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Robert Rowe Piano User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 498	I no longer do the "orchestral thing" (was principle Horn, many yrs ago). I have had great fun in learning other instruments. I have a small combo -- play light-jazz, instrumental "pop", "Standards", originals. Usually, it is a 3-piece band. I play Trumpet, keyboards, guitar, banjo, bouzouki, mandolin, (some) bass. One of the other guys plays keys, sax, bass. We have a lot of versatility, with different sounds ... no drummer; we can get a lot of "percussive"-effects with acoustic instruments. I have to work hard to learn to "move-around" (switch-off, as necessary) on the different instruments; therefore, I opt to use a C-Trumpet, in the interest of keeping it much simpler. Sometimes, I will be "chording" on the organ with my left hand, while playing melody-lines on Trumpet with the right-hand (love to have a "pinky-ring", instead of a "pinky-hook"). I have done this on a Bb horn, but it is an "instant migraine", (plus, easy to screw-up). The stringed instruments are pitched in "C", and the charts are easier to follow. Occasionally, a vocalist "stumbles" ... easy to "pick-up" the melody-line with the "C" horn. I know I'm the "odd-ball" of the bunch, here. Robert Rowe __________________ " ... Ya cain't polish a turd ...!" (old Southern expression) ~~ Love animals ... don't eat them. ~~

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Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,265	I use my piston C on Praise and Worship gigs. It sounds "Tower of Power" clean on the percussive stuff and lyrcal on the lyrical stuff and I don't have to transpose! __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

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oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 666	Hey Robt. Rowe If you are so sold on playing a C trumpet, how do I wangle you out of an old York Bb trumpet that I know that you own? Remember, I am an advanced senior citizen on a low fixed income. P'raps we can work a trade of some of my equipment for that old York? OLDLOU>> __________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

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Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	I think you are right. "The choices of horn, weight, mouthpiece, etc. today seem to make the sound between Bb's and C's very hard to notice." The better C trumpets of today can have as much weight as the heretofore standard Bb sound, in some cases even more if you go to extremes. ML

04-25-2006, 06:08 PM	#68 (permalink)
Robert Rowe Piano User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 498	Hey, Lou -- "You taw-kin to me?" -- (Robert DeNiro-character line in the movie "Taxi Driver"). Must be me ... not many folks around here have old York Bb Trumpets. That horn "is a honey", I kid you not! I am crazy about that underslung 3rd valve slide set-up (like on my Blessing Super Artists and Couesnon Monopole "C"). Not too enthused about letting it go, but always interested in "dealin'" (can't help it -- I'm from New York). Robt __________________ " ... Ya cain't polish a turd ...!" (old Southern expression) ~~ Love animals ... don't eat them. ~~

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