Tootsall

If you are just getting into jazz then I highly recommend the BBC radio "stream". You can find it at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/ . They have programs where they feature new stuff, old stuff, interviews with some of the guys "who where there when" & etc. And every week they change the program! Just go to the link down the right hand bar to "Listen Again" and then select the program you want.

krossum

JonathanShaw,

Some friendly advice -

1) internalize the discs that you already own (really listen to them, countless times)

2) go get some more

3) repeat and rinse

This isn't a facetious list. Listen to whatever you enjoy - but really dig into that group or artist before skipping on to another sound.

If you already subscribe to the above method, find recordings that have some of the same musicians and similar recording dates as the ones in your collection that you currently enjoy.

cool.
-Kelly

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trjeam

Louis Arrmstrong, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, and John Coltrane (or Ornette Coleman)... that pretty much sums up the history of jazz...

As for trumpet players check out Clifford Brown, Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan, Dizzy Guillespie... man! and the list just keeps going...

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Robert Rowe

Just a comment-or-two regarding Stevie Ray Vaughn ...

I first saw him as an "emerging artist", opening-up (unannounced and unheralded) for The Moody Blues at the Baltimore Civic Center ... and later in his then much lauded career at a Madison Square Garden gig with the fabulous Jeff Beck (!!), shortly before his death.

I play guitar, in addition to horns. Stevie Ray was a wonderful musician, and I admired his abilities (vocals, too!) a great deal. I was inspired to play the guitar at a higher-level, because of the way he transcended the instrument.

Your comment about him being "right on the beat" is interesting. His rhythm section, "Double Trouble" (two guys, drummer Chris Stanton and bass-player Tommy Shannon, are legendary in their own right) was such a great match for Stevie Ray. Stevie Ray and "Double Trouble" were also great at playing slightly behind the beat. The tune "Little Sister" (not the Elvis one of the same title) is a good example. This "behind-the-beat" playing is very difficult, but "catchy" when done properly.

As a side-note: Billie Holiday was also known for her "behind-the-beat" phrasing style.

Robt
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A.N.A. Mendez

I think this is another one of those things that one is born with, it cannot be "learned". Amazing to listen to, I can listen over and over and each time wait for them to be a little off, never happens.......

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[quote="A.N.A. Mendez"][quote="Robert Rowe"][quote="A.N.A. Mendez"]I don't believe in the "being born with" Idea. You can learn anything if you want to hard enough. Somethings are easier for some than others but if you truly want something you can get it. It may not turn exactly like you thought it would but you'll get it. I know a lot of people think that rhythmic acuity on various levels can't be learned but I do. I'm proof.

Michael McLaughlin

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Robert Rowe

A-Ha! Controversy!

Well, Michael M., that is interesting. I believed what A.N.A. Mendez commented to be the case, in my personal experience, at least.

I have played ("lead"-) guitar for a long time. I'll be darned if I can cop that "behind-the-beat" sense of rhythm, as Stevie Ray Vaughn had done so well. Occasionally, I could "approximate it", but the concentration effort was so intense, I would lose myself in the tune.

So -- there's hope (for me)?

Robt
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Yes. How much do you want to be able to do it? How much of your practice time do you devote to it? Get some recorded examples. Put them together on some medium (tape, CD, mp3) play along with them incessantly until you can match the phrasing. Then put your metronome on and try to do it yourself. Record the results and see what it sounds like. If it ain't there, repeat previous steps. Like I said, it may not come out like Stevie Ray but it will be you and it will be different from what you did before. Vaughn did not come out of the womb playing like that, he copped a whole lot of Albert King and Hendrix on his way to becoming himself.

Michael McLaughlin

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