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Old 04-27-2006, 10:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't know if this was the best idea, I used WD40 twice, when I didnt have anything else. It didnt hurt my trumpet, though it did leave a bit of slime like residue thicker than the regular valve oil mixed with ya know saliva moisture. I had to wipe the valves down pretty good
The worse thing to use is cooking oil, vegetable oil is way too thick...Though for a quick fix when in need you could get a day of tolerance using it. The valves just get a little more slimy than usual...
one word.... woah.
Another word Gasp!

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Old 04-27-2006, 11:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i know someone uses spit to lub there vavles...i didn't know whether to slap them or not because i have never heard of someone doing that before. i automatically assume that only a moron would think to do that but i honestly do not know and am not about to try myself. any thoughts?
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't know if this was the best idea, I used WD40 twice, when I didnt have anything else. It didnt hurt my trumpet, though it did leave a bit of slime like residue thicker than the regular valve oil mixed with ya know saliva moisture. I had to wipe the valves down pretty good
The worse thing to use is cooking oil, vegetable oil is way too thick...Though for a quick fix when in need you could get a day of tolerance using it. The valves just get a little more slimy than usual...
If you really need oil that bad, use water in the interim. Then as soon as you can buy a bottle of valve oil. Don't resort to using vegetable oil and wd-40, that is a sure fire way to destroy your horn. Plus, I don't know, but the WD-40 may be toxic.
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't know how long it is going to take people to understand that WD 40 is NOT a lubricant! WD stands for "Water Displacement"... it absorbs water. It does NOT leave a lubricating film (but will leave a "film") and will NOT protect your valves. Furthermore... it is toxic! Food Production facilities (such as the one I work in) are not allowed to have WD40 anywhere that it can come into contact with the food product.

You'd be better off to grab a droplet of motor oil off the car's dipstick! (Can you picture it now? "Mr. Conductor, just a moment while I run out to the car".
3-1 oil or sewing machine oil are better lubricants being lighter.

For gosh sakes, you'll spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a horn, buy the most protective case you can get your hands on, have a collection (sometimes) of 10, 20 or more mouthpieces (at $30 a pop) and you want to scrimp on a $4 bottle of valve oil!???? Good Grief, Charlie Brown. If you really want to save money, buy a case of a dozen bottles at a time of a GOOD valve oil that you know works for you.
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:46 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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from my experience palying since 1970 the best Valve Oils out there in order of personal preference are:

Bell's Super Lube ( I DO miss their spray on applicator)

Hetman Light

Blue Juice

I play in ALL types of venues and genres from Quintet, R&B, Motown, Rock & Jazz orchestra...

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Old 04-27-2006, 12:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't know how long it is going to take people to understand that WD 40 is NOT a lubricant! WD stands for "Water Displacement"... it absorbs water. It does NOT leave a lubricating film (but will leave a "film") and will NOT protect your valves. Furthermore... it is toxic! Food Production facilities (such as the one I work in) are not allowed to have WD40 anywhere that it can come into contact with the food product.

You'd be better off to grab a droplet of motor oil off the car's dipstick! (Can you picture it now? "Mr. Conductor, just a moment while I run out to the car".
3-1 oil or sewing machine oil are better lubricants being lighter.

For gosh sakes, you'll spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a horn, buy the most protective case you can get your hands on, have a collection (sometimes) of 10, 20 or more mouthpieces (at $30 a pop) and you want to scrimp on a $4 bottle of valve oil!???? Good Grief, Charlie Brown. If you really want to save money, buy a case of a dozen bottles at a time of a GOOD valve oil that you know works for you.
Just wanted to put that on the new page so everyone can see it because it makes the most sense. Go buy some valve oil. You'll be glad you did.

If you're out, have no choice at all and no where to go get some, ask your stand partner if he/she can spare some. If you're alone, try spit. Although it won't last very long. Then stop at a music store and buy some on your way home.

If money's an issue, go redeem a few cans and bottles.
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:05 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I use Hetman's lightest oil and oil my valves about once every three to four months. As some other people here have said, if you have a good horn just by some good oil for it. The stuff works and won't ruin your horn.
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one word.... woah.
Another word Gasp!

I've used blue juice for years so that's my story and I'm sticking to it...


I only done it for this one week about a month ago and directily afterwards I gave my trumpet a very good cleaning in the bathtub...
I have some oil now..
I promise I won't do it again! I swear on my trumpets main heart valves!

We live and learn...
One of the reasons I ended up here in the forums was because I done a google search for a quick fix on what to use if no valve oil is around...
Instead of finding out what I set to look for I ended up in the eclipse contest.
Now I have found more options to shopping for supplies besides the local store that I don't like driving in traffic to get to or hauling my youngens too....
This could go on another thread but I just have to say....
Ya know if anyone here works in a music store, consider a little area for small kids to play in with small stuff, little toy music intstruments, nothing fancy just so long that is not so high cost...Not intented for a drop off or anything but gives parents the reasurrance that their darlings won't damage anything expensive by a accident bump, ya know?... Then more would probably shop and find what it is they want to spend tons of money on...
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Odorless lamp oil from Walmart - $3.00 for a quart.
Blue Juice, $?? for a tall, fat bottle. (It's been so long since I had to buy any.)
I used to mix them but now I use them alternately; lamp oil for a few days, then a dose of Blue Juice.
Works great and it's not expensive. Most $5.00/2 oz. bottle oils are just re-packaged odorless lamp oil, sometimes with a perfumed or color additive.
I mean, let's get real. There may be a few silicone based lubricants out there that cost more to produce, but most trumpet oils are not that sophisticated. Nor do they have to be.
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