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Old 10-11-2006, 06:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Maybe the problem here isn't the mouthpiece but the band directors who constantly program music that is just too demanding on younger students (and "stunting their development)? The fact that the whole "higher, faster, louder to win a bowling trophy" method of "stage bands" really disturbs me.

Maybe I'm just way off base.



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I don't think your way off. I took a look mat my daughters jazz band music and I saw High Fs
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I was thinking about getting a Schilke. I have a Bach 7C and 3C. I never use the 7C anymore. Even t hough the 3C deminishes my range a tad (not a large amount) I prefer it. I am in high school marching band (Currently. It is almost over), I am in Tuesday Night Jazz Band(The not as good as Wednsday Night Jazz Band Jazz Band. Basically Jazz Band for Sophomores and Freshmen(which is what I am)), and hopefully I will make it into Symphonic Winds (but I freaked out at the rehersal and nearly fell because my knees where buckling so much and I messed up alot). I am also planning on starting a band of my own. Some sort of Jazz/Fusion(Psychedelic, Jam, Newgrass, Prog Rock) Band.What do you think? What Mouthpiece?

Oh and what can I use my 7C for?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Oh and what can I use my 7C for?
Stick a straw on it and use it for an anchor in a Steak & Shake milkshake!
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Sounds good.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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my high schools lead player plays high gs.
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Old 10-26-2006, 10:37 PM   #36 (permalink)
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If I understand it correctly, you must have the range before the lead pieces etc are of any help right? I mean if someone has a range of lets say a double C, then if he/she switches to a lead piece it will only make playing to that range easier for the person who already has that range right? It doesn't automatically "give" them that range. So, sticking with the 5C and developing the range and then when you have the range and are playing gigs that are very strenuous, long and tedious and you want some help for your chops then maybe switch over to the lead piece.

Am I on the right track here? The lead piece doesn't give you the range. You have to put in the time and effort by practising and getting the range first.

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If I understand it correctly, you must have the range before the lead pieces etc are of any help right? I mean if someone has a range of lets say a double C, then if he/she switches to a lead piece it will only make playing to that range easier for the person who already has that range right? It doesn't automatically "give" them that range. So, sticking with the 5C and developing the range and then when you have the range and are playing gigs that are very strenuous, long and tedious and you want some help for your chops then maybe switch over to the lead piece.

Am I on the right track here? The lead piece doesn't give you the range. You have to put in the time and effort by practising and getting the range first.

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I'm not sure thats true. Changing a mouthpiece can give extra notes.
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But at what price?

This is a highly subjective conversation; however here's what happend to me.

I have played on a Bach 3C since 7th Grade. Last year I started playing with mouthpieces looking for higher notes. My range right now is Low F# to about "D" over high "C" nothing really in the trumpet world but I can cover any music that I have to play so works for me.

I switched to several Jet tone models and got that "extra note" or two but my tone suffered for it. I ended up going with the Monette B4S series mouthpieces on everything that I play and my range is still roughly where it is but my tone is crystal clear and ringing. I'll take that over ear piercing shrills any day.

Again, it's subjective. I am a player who enjoyes lyrical sweeping passages with emotion. If I were a Maynard type of player I woulldn't care about tone as much because I would be trying to shatter glass.

My .02 simply put; define what it is you want. Then play the mouthpiece that gets you there!
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Shallower mouthpieces can have more "support" for the lips as the air in the smaller cup volume is at higher pressure. This support actually could give someone a note or two more.
When switching to a shallower cup, the lips can "bottom out" when they get tired, thus preventing any sound from getting out. When trying lead mouthpieces, you need to play them long enough to see if this happens.
Also keep in mind: you are coming from a larger piece. Your brain and ears are expecting your old bigger sound and you will probably subconciously try to adjust for this. This will rob you of a lot of strength until you have a "new" "lead sound" concept.
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