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Old 03-23-2007, 03:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

Try as many mouthpieces as you can afford...Don't go for a big chnage unless it produces a drmatic change for good, which is rarely the case. There is so many mouthpiece makers out there...yamaha, bach, denis wick, warburton, GR, monette, schilke...you name it. Don't limit yourself only to brands that you have heard of. Try everything, find the best for you and stick with it.
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

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All i know is I want a mouthpiece to help tone and range
Dan,

Can a mouthpiece can provide what you seek, esp., with regards to tone?

It's a great question with which to begin.

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Old 03-23-2007, 05:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Dan,

Can a mouthpiece can provide what you seek, esp., with regards to tone?

It's a great question with which to begin.

All the Best,

Richard
Rich has a really good point there...The answer of the initial question may lie in your chops and breathing but trying new mouthpieces won't harm your playing unless you try to change mouthpieces all the time, without leaving yourself the time to work with a single mouthpiece, so you can progress...Whatever the MP you will need time for acclimatisation and then hope for a progress. If a new mouthpiece is chosen you should put 1-2 weeks to get used to and then start work on your tone and range...
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

George Graham was one of the top call studio players in Los Angeles for many years and played killer double Cs on a 7C mouthpiece with a slightly modified rim.

Work on sounding great and your range will increase with practice.

You should be able to play the same range on pretty much any mouthpiece. The choice of mouthpiece will affect your endurance and tone more than anything.

BTW, a 1 1/2C is almost never used by anybody for a "fat lead sound". It's most often used for orchestral playing (and yes, I know Byron Stripling plays a 1).
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

If you think a mouthpiece is going to help your range one bit, I would think again. Unless your present choice is miserable (not the case with the Yamaha - it is good - not too big or small!), another mouthpiece will NOT help add one tone to your range.
Range is a function of lip mass and density to air pressure. That means, you need to get your chops, body use and breathing together to play higher. Mouthpieces are interesting but generally distract from the real issue - if you can't play as high as you want to, then you are doing something physically wrong.
Posts like this (and the comical recommendations for specific mouthpieces) just prove that too many people are not willing to accept the fact that you have to pay your dues!!
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

Do you even KNOW what diameter rim a 10-1/2 has? A 1-1/2? What backbore shape/size they have? What throat diameter?

Don't "buy numbers", buy what works FOR YOU.
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

The best mouthpiece in the world is (drumroll, please) ........................ yours! It can be that, however only if you practice, if you invest the time and hard work, though. Otherwise, it won't matter. The nasty part is, until you practice, until you invest the time and hard work there is no way of telling if a different mouthpiece might be better. It kinda sucks, but that's the way it is. Keep pluggin!
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

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The best mouthpiece in the world is (drumroll, please) ........................ yours! It can be that, however only if you practice, if you invest the time and hard work, though. Otherwise, it won't matter. The nasty part is, until you practice, until you invest the time and hard work there is no way of telling if a different mouthpiece might be better. It kinda sucks, but that's the way it is. Keep pluggin!
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Try as many mouthpieces as you can afford...Don't go for a big chnage unless it produces a drmatic change for good, .
That was my plan, but don't you have to get adjusted to a mouthpiece (which can take some time) before you get just as good and better than before?
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Re: time for a new mouthpiece

"Yes".

Go to a place where they have a bunch of different sizes and are willing to let you try them all. Take someone with you to listen from the other side of the horn. Play them all. Select the one that sounds and feels best to you overall (range, effort, tone, intonation). Buy it. Hide your old one for at least a month (let your teacher or buddy put it in their safedeposit box with instructions not to open no matter how hard you cry. DO NOT get in the habit of thinking "Hey, I sounded better on my old one" and then trying to switch back... you'll find that you now suck on your old one too. Stick with it; it won't come overnight.

A tip if you will... if you can find someone with a Warburton dealer's kit that's the way to go; the mix and match allows you to customize everything from the end gap to the backbore to the throat to the cup size and rim diameter.

And remember... why work harder than you have to by purchasing something that's bigger than you can use or that you really need or that works for you?
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