hirnu

No Tataka I am not John Eth. Comments like ( Are we talking to him) show a bias right up front. Why? I posted his phone no. above.
If you have questions you call him. He can speak for himself.
He lives in Az. I live in Mo. It is a new product but I hope that in the future posts that players who judge the product will at least have played on it first before just putting it down based on their dislike of the marketing.
I do know that he gets dozens of calls daily and many E-mails so it is hard for him as he is also making and shipping the product himself. He does not have a staff of people to do it for himself. Almost every question I have seen asked on this site can be asked directly to John. Let us know what he says to you.
Thanks
Hirnu

tatakata

I just think its a bit odd a question comes up about these new Xstreme pieces and all of a sudden we have 3 or 4 "new friends" on the TM talking about them.

John Eth can come on here if he likes. I have no need to talk to him. I'll stick with my Bachs. Catchy names are a turn off to me. I was burned by the "MEGA TONE" in the 90s

rowuk

Hirnu,
if he is that busy making and delivering product - FANTASTIC. Then he also has a larger base of customers for testemonials!
We are like sponges when it comes to information, the web site is still weak and you have been the only evangelist. There is definitely a vacuum that John could fill, the questions are public!
No reason for ANYBODY to get worked up. I do not spend my time or money democratically (innocent until proven guilty). A product must prove itself before I invest. I am most likely not alone in this respect!
We do not need to chase John. When he gets time, he will probably modify his site and all of our questions will be answered. Slamming the sceptics does not increase your credibility or our interest in the products you are interested in.
Let's just be patient. If John thinks that the trumpet forums are good free press, he will get to us eventually. I think that a small investment of his time could stir up some interest, but that has to fit in his business plan.
As I said, the ball is in his court. One evangelist doth not an army make.

godchaser

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Looking forward to your mouthpiece tech. talk thread there Robin.

Coming soon?



C

rowuk

Chris,
if my customers had placed their orders when I told them to, I wouldn't be as hard up for time. I think I am going to need another couple of weeks. The projects are real brain drainers!

et_mike

Wow, you guys are amazing... here I thought I might have found a website where adults could share information about their common interest... instead I walk into a cat fight about a new mouthpiece. While I agree that the marketing is cheesey, and I'm skeptical of the credentials, none of it matters. If you want to try one, great, have fun and I wish you luck. If you don't want to try one... get the H*LL over it and move on....

rowuk

ET,
you are right. The problem is, if we only talk about things that we know about, there will only be about 150 threads......................... and then only repeats!
Not all of the threads look like this one though. Just a warning: expensive trumpets and voodoo items cause similar reactions!

Claude Gnocchi

Agree w/you.....I thought this would be a more mature place, but after all, I guess that's why they call musicians "Cats..."

rowuk

What is mature about mouthpieces?
If the technology was mature (I believe it is) then there would be no "new" innovation possible. Violin construction is mature - a Stradivarius or Guaneri is a couple of hundred years old and is as good as anything built today.
John Eth is building something that he calls new and we are sceptical.
We can say innocent (good) until proven guilty(bad). Who is going to lay down cash? Is one evangelist enough proof?
Picking a mouthpiece is seldom a "rational" decision. At one point in our playing career we found a rim that was "comfortable", then we played with cup depth, throat and backbore. If we got lucky, we didn't spend too much money. A while later we got the idea that a smaller or shallower piece could improve our high chops - the non-scientific search started again!
I can understand why this is an emotional issue for some players (especially ones that have been suckered into something that didn't work!). It has nothing to do with maturity or being an adult. It has to do with ones own convictions, a certain amount of evangelism, and perhaps a desire to see oneself "published" on the internet.
TM is only as good as the posts offered. ET_Mike, what does your experience say - go for it or stick with what you have?

Dave Mickley

I agree with rowuk on mouthpieces -with the guidance of a good friend I found a m.p. that worked over 15 years ago but I get caught up in the hype every so often of the m.p. that will help me overcome my shortcomings [lack of good practice] and I buy it, you know what, I always return to the m.p. that I have been using for ever - IT WORKS for ME. Most of us trumpet players are always searching for that one special piece of equipment [mouth piece and/or trumpet] that will improve us and I doubt that will ever change.
Dave