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Old 03-06-2006, 08:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I disagree with your notion that people who dislike rap don't get it and, no, I haven't seen the movie. For me, rap was useful in it's initial form which was on the street with kids making things up to a beat. Guess what? It's been done before but in different forms. One form was beat poetry from the 1950's. Recitative in 17th century opera and the German "Singspiel" is another form.

The song I heard "Hard to be Pimp" or whatever the title was, was recycled at best. There was nothing creative about it, there was nothing interesting about it, there was nothing emotionally compelling about. For a song to be Oscar-winning material, I believe it has to transcend the movie and stand alone. This song will be nothing more than a beat for workout rooms within a month and that will be its value: a beat. No memorable melody, no compelling harmonies to pull on your ear. I'll say it again; the Academy has lowered it's standards from the days of "Over the Rainbow" and "Theme from 'Shaft'".

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Old 03-06-2006, 08:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yea it,s been done before but it didnt win a oscar back then either.
and it also appears the acadammy saw the movie and voted as it saw fit.
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Clarence,

The Theme from Shaft won best song in 1971.

Here's an article from the Washington Post. See what you think.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...030601461.html

Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of congratulating going on. But the lady from BET is making the same point you made, about seeing the movie and checking it out in context.

But so we're clear, her's what we're talking about:

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Song: It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp Lyrics
[Chorus 2X: Shug - singing] + (Djay)
You know it's hard out here for a pimp (you ain't knowin)
When he tryin to get this money for the rent (you ain't knowin)
For the Cadillacs and gas money spent (you ain't knowin)
[1] Because a whole lot of bitches talkin shit (you ain't knowin)
[2] Will have a whole lot of bitches talkin shit (you ain't knowin)

[Djay]
In my eyes I done seen some crazy thangs in the streets
Gotta couple hoes workin on the changes for me
But I gotta keep my game tight like Kobe on game night
Like takin from a ho don't know no better, I know that ain't right
Done seen people killed, done seen people deal
Done seen people live in poverty with no meals
It's fucked up where I live, but that's just how it is
It might be new to you, but it's been like this for years
It's blood sweat and tears when it come down to this shit
I'm tryin to get rich 'fore I leave up out this bitch
I'm tryin to have thangs but it's hard fo' a pimp
But I'm prayin and I'm hopin to God I don't slip, yeah

[Chorus]

[Djay]
Man it seems like I'm duckin dodgin bullets everyday
Niggaz hatin on me cause I got, hoes on the tray
But I gotta stay paid, gotta stay above water
Couldn't keep up with my hoes, that's when shit got harder
North Memphis where I'm from, I'm 7th Street bound
Where niggaz all the time end up lost and never found
Man these girls think we prove thangs, leave a big head
They come hopin every night, they don't end up bein dead
Wait I got a snow bunny, and a black girl too
You pay the right price and they'll both do you
That's the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin
Gotta have my hustle tight, makin change off these women, yeah

[Chorus]

Just letting this Oscar winner speak for itself.

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