tom turner

I would like to think that Al Gore would have done the same thing.

What a powerful stroke of leadership and inspiration he provided to our fighting troops who surely felt alone and lonely at Thanksgiving in Iraq.

A political move? I don't think so.

His political advisors will be around advising other Republican leaders long after Dubya retires from the scene. These people would have lost their entire power base if Bush had gone there and been killed. The results could have been a vaccum that would have sunk the current power of the Republican party.

No, I feel this was Bush's idea and his inspiration alone . . . and that he did it with emotion and for the right reasons. It brought a proud tear to my eye when I saw the tape of him walking into the room and the instant roar and inspiration from the troops assembled.

The guy put his life on the line . . . to support those who also have their life on the line. REAL leaders throughout history have placed their lives on the line to support those warriors who sign on to do the same.

May God Bless Bush and the men over there who protect us and freedom everywhere.

Sincerely,

Tom Turner

romey1

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tom turner

Hi Romey1,

Hope you've had a great Thanksgiving, and I'm glad there is now a dedicated Bach forum. Heck, I might even lurk and post there sometimes . . . always civil, naturally.

The Bach trumpets have a great history and there are a lot of models. I've owned many, and played most models in most keys and incarnations.

I'm sure folks will enjoy this new area. Best wishes to you, Dave and Mickey and thanks to Trumpetmaster for opening up this new area!

Sincerely,

Tom

Anonymous

On this topic of George Bush in Baghdad. What do you think Saddam was thinking (if he is still alive) to learn that George Bush was serving US troops Turkey in his old city. Suck on that Saddam!

For those military guys on here I have some questions!

I am amazed that this trip was kept a secret. I think if word had gotten out that GW was going to Baghdad for Thanksgiving they would have had to cancel it for obvious security reasons.

I can only imagine the security that went into this thing but what do you military people think of it? What do you think happened. I know the secret service always travels with the president but I doubt they know the area well and I am guessing they might have been a bit out of their league in that enviornment. I am sure there were Delta Force people and Navy Seals all over the place providing security as well as secret service.

I noticed alot of regular military people in the room with GW with their wepons. Do you think these wepons were loaded? I am not saying one of our soldiers would ever take a shot at the president but I can't help to think it would pose a rather large security problem for those who had to protect him to know there were M16s all over the place.

Thoughts?

TM

gzent

Yes, its hard not to admire GW, especially after the jacka$$ that thumbed his nose at the military for the 8 years prior.

GW is a bit too "mushy" when it comes to domestic affairs for my liking.

I like the Jeffersonian philosophy known today as "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism. Alan Keyes was my preference in 96 and 2000, the guy is a genius.

But, GW is, IMO, magnitudes better than anyone the dems support. The only plan they have is to keep bashing Bush and the war. Not much of a platform if you ask me.

Greg

tom turner

Greg,

We surely agree on who "the Man" should have been. Alan Keyes was my choice too.

His intellect and integrity scared the heck out of a lot of folks though. He failed to connect with the "common man" and with his race too. It's too bad. He would have been a fine president.

Tom

gzent

Tom,

Ironic isn't how liberals, who claim to be such advocates of diversity, cannot accept that a black man can be conservative?

Greg

Liad Bar-EL

TM, from being in the Air Force Band, I know that the parameters of a visiting President of the United States goes far beyond one building of people carrying an M16 in a hall of celebration. The whole town and surrounding suburbs are canvassed, covered, etc. For Iraq, I am sure the security coverage was more than this because mortars have a range and that range has to be secured.

Liad Bar-EL

trumplyr

Anybody who saw the film clip this morning on Meet The Press of the troups standing on chairs and tables cheering when GWB walked in can't doubt the moral boast he brought to them.

Visiting the troups is not new, it's what presidents do. This president has huge B#lls to have done it where and when he did.

I thank God we have a president who is willing to work with our allies, but is not willing to turn over our national security to that sham group occupying valuble space in NY.

If you want to talk about something, hear my point of view, have me hear yours, try to understand, maybe agree....okay. But if you think you're going to dictate my actions while I'm trying to save my life, my way of life and my country when it's under attack and at war..........you're nuts !!

gzent

trumplyr - Amen to that! The UN needs to go!

BTW, isn't it lonely being the only Republican in Michigan? :wink:

Greg