Question for Rowuk - Page 2

Eeviac · 02-21-2008, 11:52 AM

I think huggy bear's Mom just took away his computer privelages....

rowuk · 02-21-2008, 12:29 PM

Let's keep this in perspective. Polite or funny. No reason to dig too deep.
I often get comments like this when I criticize things that I consider to be "myths" or "misleading" especially when the origins are professional players.
What is most often ignored is the context in which things are presented. That is why a Stamp trained player can offer so much more than the intellectual that just bought the book. The same goes for Caruso, Schlossberg and Claude Gordon. The text is just not enough. When I talk to the players that publish the stuff, they also complain about being misunderstood. It is hard to write things in a way universally understood. I guess Huggy has not been teaching for very long or this would be apparent. No hard feelings from my side. I would hate to see this thread get ugly though. We are MUCH better than that!

Patric_Bernard · 02-21-2008, 01:08 PM

I used to hate Rowuk replying to me, because I always thought that I was right in what I did. Then it got through my thick skull and I started learning from his posts... and Rowuks cool now

I would definatly take lessons from him if I had the money to fly to Germany.

RG111 · 02-21-2008, 01:24 PM

Robin,

A jerk is a jerk. I hope you ignore this one! I enjoy your posts a lot.

Roy Griffin

Schwab · 02-21-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brem

I don't see Huggy Bear providing us with any advice at all.

What about this? Sounds like pretty good advice to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggy Bear

Breathe through your nose to full capacity. Can you still breath more through your mouth? Fo' Shizzle. But, you don't want to.....that's when you start introducing all kinds of tension. Breathing in and out can be relaxing. LET the breath in and LET the breath out....NO PUSHING! You have to take a large enough breath, though....depending on the length of the phrase.....so you can be above the relaxation/pressure curve when the air want to just come out on its own. Then the direction of the phrase and the internal concept of sound will get the air to whatever speed is necessary. At least that's what my teacher told me...

Jimi Michiel · 02-21-2008, 02:09 PM

I'd be interested in seeing what Huggy Bear's IP address is. I suspect it would match another member here at TM who wanted to create an alias for the sole purpose of taking a couple of cheap shots.

-Jimi

rowuk · 02-21-2008, 02:33 PM

It doesn't matter. People that count know better!
He has a post with some decent breathing info in Andrews forum. A bit flambouyant but his style makes it an interesting read. I am not sure that snoop dog plagiarism is in anymore though......

Jimi Michiel · 02-21-2008, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowuk

It doesn't matter. People that count know better!
He has a post with some decent breathing info in Andrews forum. A bit flambouyant but his style makes it an interesting read. I am not sure that snoop dog plagiarism is in anymore though......

Robin,

You forgot the second "g" on Snoop Dogg. Just remember, "S-N-DOUBLE-O-P.... D-O-DOUBLE-GIIIZZY"!

-Jimi

Schwab · 02-21-2008, 02:57 PM

I think Huggy is hilarious, he has been a long-time fixture over at THe oTHer site. And it seems he actually knows what he is talking about in the world of trumpet, he is dialed in to every audition that happens.

brem · 02-21-2008, 03:10 PM

Schwab: I admit I hadn't read the two other posts he did... I assumed he didn't say anything interesting. I was wrong.

02-21-2008, 11:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
Eeviac Piano User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: chino valley arizona usa Posts: 477	Re: Question for Rowuk I think huggy bear's Mom just took away his computer privelages.... __________________ Conn Pan Am made in 1950 silver + Bach 7C King American Standard cornet made in 1940 + Olds 3C Striving for a Touchy Tone, rather than obnoquious

02-21-2008, 12:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,374	Re: Question for Rowuk Let's keep this in perspective. Polite or funny. No reason to dig too deep. I often get comments like this when I criticize things that I consider to be "myths" or "misleading" especially when the origins are professional players. What is most often ignored is the context in which things are presented. That is why a Stamp trained player can offer so much more than the intellectual that just bought the book. The same goes for Caruso, Schlossberg and Claude Gordon. The text is just not enough. When I talk to the players that publish the stuff, they also complain about being misunderstood. It is hard to write things in a way universally understood. I guess Huggy has not been teaching for very long or this would be apparent. No hard feelings from my side. I would hate to see this thread get ugly though. We are MUCH better than that! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

02-21-2008, 01:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,933	Re: Question for Rowuk I used to hate Rowuk replying to me, because I always thought that I was right in what I did. Then it got through my thick skull and I started learning from his posts... and Rowuks cool now I would definatly take lessons from him if I had the money to fly to Germany. __________________ Bach Omega Bach 3C Bach 3c Megatone Berkley Cornet Bach Cornet 3C Teachers Arbans book, Clarke Studies Book. Nick Drozdoff's online lessons and words of wisdom through email.

02-21-2008, 01:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
RG111 Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 276	Re: Question for Rowuk Robin, A jerk is a jerk. I hope you ignore this one! I enjoy your posts a lot. Roy Griffin

02-21-2008, 02:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jimi Michiel Forte User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,749	Re: Question for Rowuk I'd be interested in seeing what Huggy Bear's IP address is. I suspect it would match another member here at TM who wanted to create an alias for the sole purpose of taking a couple of cheap shots. -Jimi __________________

02-21-2008, 02:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,374	Re: Question for Rowuk It doesn't matter. People that count know better! He has a post with some decent breathing info in Andrews forum. A bit flambouyant but his style makes it an interesting read. I am not sure that snoop dog plagiarism is in anymore though...... __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

02-21-2008, 02:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 1,055	Re: Question for Rowuk I think Huggy is hilarious, he has been a long-time fixture over at THe oTHer site. And it seems he actually knows what he is talking about in the world of trumpet, he is dialed in to every audition that happens. __________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

02-21-2008, 03:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
brem Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Quebec City, QC, Canada Posts: 676	Re: Question for Rowuk Schwab: I admit I hadn't read the two other posts he did... I assumed he didn't say anything interesting. I was wrong. __________________ brem ----- NYTC Stage 1 California Light - Schilke 15B mpc Bach Stradivarius Bb Model 37 * #124xxx (circa 1975) - Schilke 15B mpc Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn #000xxx - Yamaha 14F4-GP mpc

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