Patric_Bernard

agreed... we'll just keep telling him cool things to put on it haha

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Brekelefuw

I think I have decided to remove the bell from the horn and scratch brush more of it, and then remove the leadpipe so I can fix a small gap in the rear sheet brace, as well as scratch brush it.

Thanks for all the positive responses.

trumpetnick

Just for the record, I am not a brass instrument builder, never had done any studies for it and don't consider myself an expert in the field. I am a trumpeter who likes to play different trumpets (don't we all?) and mess around with them. Breke, As you are changing the look and the weight of your creation, I thought that you may need a heavier trim kit. I can't tell how much heavier, but it seems to me inapropriate to keep the original one. It is difficult to tell without testing the horn, but even only for the look, If I was you, I would change it. A tuning bell may improve the intonation that's for sure. But if you don't wan't make the horn heavier than it is already, I think that you may want to change to bell with another with adifferent flare (however, that can be pricey). Then you can use attachements like those used by NYTC and Toni Possegger on their modular horns, as they don't add lots of weight on it. Yesterday I was on the Possegger website and saw that now he is putting some weight on the bell on his new model.




If you found that you have too much weight on the rest of the horn, and not on the bell, this may be an usefull idea. I never tested those new Possegger's trumpets and don't really know how that work's in reality.

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Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C
Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C
1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet
Spada Custom Piccolo

If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

godchaser

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'I used masking tape. There is one point where the masking tape got broken, so there is a bit of a skewing of the line, but overall the line is about 90% straight.'

Ah- i would have figured that wouldn't work. Good show.

See where your considering brushing the rest of the bell. Before you did though, i'd love to see what masking off some tricked out flames, or a gun-carving design pattern, brushed all over it would look like. :)

Try and post more often B. Great fun here.

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trumpetnick

Correction: This thing on the bell is not a brace, it is a screw.

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Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C
Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C
1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet
Spada Custom Piccolo

If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

Brekelefuw

Wow Nick, that trumpet is beautiful.

I want to make new buttons and valve caps, but I don't know if I have the lathe accuracy to pull it off yet. It is in consideration though. I was thinking of trying to do the recessed ones.

Tonight I am going to go in to the lab and take the bell off and do more scratch brushing.

trumpetnick

Breke, I don't want it to sound like an advert as I don't get roalties , but if I was not stuck with my spadas, I would probably buy a horn from Toni. He has an amazing feel of design and what is even more important these trumpets sound really well and are easy to play. Well, I have not tried to tested the screw-on detachable bell, as it seems that he hasput it on the market just recently, but the other horns are easy to play and a real joy to look at...and pretty expensive, but they are worthed the price.

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Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C
Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C
1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet
Spada Custom Piccolo

If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

et_mike

Lathe accuracy will only come with practice... so let us know how your first couple tries turn out!

Keep us up to date!!

Mike

Brekelefuw

It's update time. This is a pretty drastic one.

I decided that version 1 of the Model E was good, but I wanted to tinker a bit more.
I went to the hobby shop and bought a sheet of Copper.

I took the whole trumpet apart and scratch brushed the entire bell as well as the leadpipe and tuning slides. I then reassembled and started making new braces. Here is what it looks like now



Notice the new E in the bell crook, the brace on the main tuning slide and the little copper 'fin' that goes behind the finger ring.


Closeup of main tuning slide brace and finger ring 'fin' thing.


The bell crook E brace. Now with sleek looks.


The new front and back bell to leapipe braces.


It took a bit of trial and error to the get the front and rear braces so the horn played nicely. It then took even more trial and error to get the main tuning slide brace to a size where it didn't dampen the horn and screw up the nodes.
The horn has a really nice dark, but not stuffy sound now.

This might be the last update I do while I am at school since I have to put together my Schilke A1 cornet before I am done this semester so i can send it off for plating.

If I do get more time to work on the horn, I think I will put new slide bumpers on. I was also watching some Mnozilbrass videos on youtube, and we have some pitch lying around the lab, so if I get adventurous I might try to make the bell a Gansch horn!


I guess teh flash on my camera removes the fact that all the new additions are made from copper, not brass.

cbdmd

Thank you for this thread. I have really enjoyed watching your progress. I've often wanted to do what you are doing, but the price of setting up a small shop was too much for me (or I should say the wife...gotta keep her happy..lol). May be some time down the road it might be a possibility. Keep up the great work!
Most of the cheap horns I've seen have horrible leaky, no compression valves...how do these valves appear to be? I saw one of the first act trumpets at toysRus. Lucky for me the box was open and I unscrewed one of the bottom valve caps to find a large enough gap between the valve and casing to drive a truck through...i promptly boxed it back up.
Keep posting we love it!!!