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Old 01-07-2008, 10:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: buying first cornet

Unless you want to spend $$ for its own sake, renting + lessons for a 12 month period (you get to see how junior responds to the daily work that being a musician requires when school is in session and out) is a good proposition.
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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....And Dale is right, his Bach Strad 181 is a beauty. Check out some of his previous posts, he show some pics of his Strad. It's a great looking horn ! Although I have never played a Bach Strad Cornet, I have always liked the way the Strad trumpets play and feel. It would be one of my top choices for a step up from the CR300 or the Olds.
Haven't played a CR300, so I can't say anything about it. My cornet is a 184 (Strad short cornet), not a 181, BTW. You probably won't find an inexpensive 184 for sale. The 181 (Strad long cornet) is a great horn, and they sell for much less than a 180 Strad trumpet.

You'd have to be one of the luckiest people on earth to find an A6S Ambassador for sale at a low price - they're pretty rare. I never pass up an opportunity to post a pic of my cornet.....

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Old 01-07-2008, 04:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: buying first cornet

My Ambassador ('68) cornet has a quirky 2nd valve. I am hoping changing to a different oil helps. It sticks down, but will only do so while playing and never when just working them up and down with the horn off my lips. It has a great, round sound, but delivered many bad notes last week when performing with the jazz trio because of that valve. Only the other horn player noticed, and he (nicely) said nothing. Jazz is forgiving that way.

I just donated my Bach CR300 to a program Cornell University is establishing for youngsters in Costa Rica. It was not a very good horn in my estimation, with difficult intonation issues, but perhaps I didn't give it enough of a chance, or the right mouthpiece. The plastic case was junky. I hope I haven't ruined the potential career of some Costa Rican kid.

I still have my Conn 18A, coprion bell horn. It looks ratty, but works OK and I think I'll strip it so the copper is visible. Those are good horns if you can find one in decent shape. On a par with the Ambassador maybe.

My other cornets are all older shepherds crook horns - the King in my avatar, and an Ohio Regent Soloist. If I could get a custom-made short tuning slide to bring the King up to pitch it would be terrific. As it is, it still is wonderful with it's cookie cutter mouthpiece and I can blow it in tune enough to play it with the trio - the piano's flat. The Regent is a nice little horn, but somewhat obscure, so you won't find one.

Anyway, if you can get an Ambassador or a Conn or an Olds, any would be terrific (the Olds even fantastic if it was a Recording, my Olds Recording Trumpet is totally awesome -certainly the prettiest, best built, best sounding trumpet I own). And Yamaha makes better cornets than the basic edition 2320, and Yamaha cornets (and cornets in general) are easier to find than are trumpets as a rule. Search for Coronet -Dodge (so you don't get the cars). That misspelling is very common.

Please let us know how you make out.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Haven't played a CR300, so I can't say anything about it. My cornet is a 184 (Strad short cornet), not a 181, BTW. You probably won't find an inexpensive 184 for sale. The 181 (Strad long cornet) is a great horn, and they sell for much less than a 180 Strad trumpet.

You'd have to be one of the luckiest people on earth to find an A6S Ambassador for sale at a low price - they're pretty rare. I never pass up an opportunity to post a pic of my cornet.....

Bach Strad 184G Cornet
Sorry about the wrong model , my bad.
Why is it that I drool everytime you show your horn ?
I think my Martin is going to go away, the 184 is just calling my name.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: buying first cornet

I saw an A6S at my community band tonight. It's a great sounding horn.
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HMMMMMM. Seems we have gotten way from easy to get horns and on to wow cornets (that's OK Ausie! )
Well in that case.....

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