ChasStarr

Noel, thanks for answering my original question about caring for the finish on my new baby! Now, if I can figure out what fairy liquid is.

By the way, I listened to your performance with Lionel Ritchie on BBC radio: Fantastic! Chops to aspire to! At a big band rehearsal a little while back during a break, I got the guys to gather around a computer a take a listen. Needless to say, you've got several new fans here in Louisiana!

Mikey

"Fairy Liquid"???



Never mind.............I don't wanna know.







Mike

Tootsall

..........Groan........... missed that one completely, Mike. :(

Tootsall

This thread covers several different aspects of a "new trumpet". The first one discussed thoroughly (and, yes... mentioned in other threads) was new valve care.

I've only ever had two "new" instruments... my Jupiter flugel and my Schilke B1. Aside for cleaning the valves and reoiling about every three or four days for the first two weeks of ownership, I have done nothing "out of the ordinary" to "break in" these valves. Yet they are just fine. I'm sure you'll agree that Jupiter's "student range" valves probably do not receive the most thorough of factory "break-in" nor "precision lapping"... (as contrasted with Schilke's) yet they evidenced no unusual sticking, jamming, or whatever. Have I just been stupidly lucky? Or are there a lot of folks (judging from the number of questions/comments I've read in various forums) who have been extraordinarily unlucky?

Yes, I'll agree that unless someone else has done it for you (P. King, D. Bankhead, Schilke), it pays to inspect and clean the valves and flush the horn to GUARANTEE that there are no loose metal filings/lapping compound/whatever left inside.... but isn't that expected of careful ownership of a precision machine?

Good heavens, some of the instructions I've read for breaking in a new instrument look like they could have been written by Dave Monette's acolytes.... "assume the lotus position then, using the end of a wooden chopstick, run TWO (only) drops of OIIKDLED40/30 oil precisely 2 mm from the upper end of the 2nd valve......"

lonelyangel

Fairy Liquid is a brand name but in these parts it is the generic term (like hoover for vacuum cleaner) that we use meaning washing-up liquid - detergent that you squirt into a bowl of water if you are going to wash dishes by hand. Is it what you guys refer to as simple green? (because I have no idea what that is!)

Are you with me now? Noel.

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Tootsall

Ahh... you would be referring to dish detergent! I think most of us use it or have used it at one time or another. One thing that's been observed about generic dish detergent is that it has lanolin (helps keep the dish washer's hands soft, doncha know?) and this is contra-indicated where the trumpet player insists on using Binak lubricant for their valves. Seems that the two of 'em don't mix well and is one of the main causes of complaints about Binak.

Simple Green is a specialized cleaner that has no non-natural additives and is supposed to be environmentally friendly. I've got some but haven't used it yet (horn hasn't needed overall cleaning since I got the Simple Green.... I combatted the lanolin problem with HOT and PLENTY rinsing).

dHoff

Simple Green is a brand name for some pretty amayzing stuff. It's all natural, biodegradable and leaves no residue. It can b used on Engines (the milatary used to use it), will remove brake dust from wheels, some pre schools use it (diluted) to clean cribs and changing tables, you can clean your floor with it and apparently, your trumpet too.