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Old 11-20-2007, 03:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

stchasking,
you make a VERY good point that I did not even think about. Even if Dave and Tamis hearts are in the right place, this instrument does draw attention to itself, which can be perceived by some(many?) to be "not in place"! On the other hand, it may be considered an honor by some others.
In any case, it should not be a surprise, and it is better to under- than overstate on these somber reverent occasions!
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

Why didn't you tell us about this sooner max? You mean we have been the dark about this bugle for days if not weeks now

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Old 11-20-2007, 04:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

Point taken sking. However if it were my son or daughter I don't think I would be paying much attention to the looks of the bugle. I don't think it would distract from the funeral. IMO


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you make a VERY good point that I did not even think about. Even if Dave and Tamis hearts are in the right place, this instrument does draw attention to itself, which can be perceived by some(many?) to be "not in place"! On the other hand, it may be considered an honor by some others.
In any case, it should not be a surprise, and it is better to under- than overstate on these somber reverent occasions!
Thanks for the nudge!
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

The way I understood it the instrument was made to honor the player and his achievements, would you not be grinning if you were holding that beautiful piece of functional art?
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The way I understood it the instrument was made to honor the player and his achievements, would you not be grinning if you were holding that beautiful piece of functional art?
I received some back ground on this horn. I concur with the above quote and would find this an apt reward. It isn't expected to be played at funerals. I find it hard to believe Dave Monett doesn't have some motivation behind this other than being a nice guy.

I would be in full support of a Prana based bugle that is typical in looks and function. I still think the Getzen is adequate and was also built for Buglers Across America.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:22 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I find it hard to believe Dave Monett doesn't have some motivation behind this other than being a nice guy.

I still think the Getzen is adequate and was also built for Buglers Across America.
Dave Monett is a big supporter of Bugles (not Buglers, please) Across America, and really believes in what the BAA does. He has donated mouthpieces to members in contests (I was one of the winners) several times, and built this horn for Tom Day to thank him for what he's doing for our Veterans.

The Getzen is a good horn. I also own Bach Stradivarius versions (Bach called them Signal Trumpets, while others call them Field Trumpets) in gold and silver plate, and they're good horns as well.

I volunteer to sounds Taps at, on average, 10 funerals a week. There's nothing wrong with wanting the best horn you can, to do your best.

Oh, BTW, the other purpose of that horn was for an art show. It is a work of art, that can be played.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

Wow, look at me! I brought my big beautiful Monette bugle to a funeral...doesn't everyone feel better now? I've played taps at many a funerals and the last thing you want to do is draw attention to yourself. You're not there to look amazing.

Lets face it. Monette has made lots of $$$ on trumpet players who are looking for the ultimate horn and mouthpiece---were all suckers for a great salesman.

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Old 11-24-2007, 09:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

Monette horns are for those who appreciate the best and can afford it. If you can't do both...then don't bash those who can. It's not (at least from my perspective) about drawing attention to one's self...but being able to express yourself via the best means possible. Dave Monette takes trumpet building to a new level of artistry. If you've never played a new prana with Dave's new valve block...you're not qualified to even comment. It is THAT much better.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:09 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Monette horns are for those who appreciate the best and can afford it.
I appreciate the best and can afford it. Still I'm not playing Monette (I did in the past). Next to that, if YOU haven't played every other brand that's on the market, you can't tell if Monette makes the best horns. What is "best horn" anyway?
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Dave Monette does it again!

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'..were all suckers for a great salesman.'

Maybe, but then again...


When i first heard of Monette i figured the innovation was genuine, but questioned the legitimacy of the build hrs. It sounded like Dave was contending unnecessarily with the etcetera principal. A phenomenon where the viewer's mind completes an unfinished image unconsciously, if a few key areas of detail are established. My meaning is there comes a point when the yield of efforts put forth are vastly diminished, and arun't appreciable to the artist or viewer.

Although, it may well be that the seemingly eccentric and obsessive build hrs devoted to Monette horns, (which i guess is still the case, despite modernizing their facility (?) ..are nevertheless appreciable; but only by measure of a cumulative design momentum? The last horn built is a progressive extention of the initial horn/design? What i mean to say is a Monette horn that's not afforded notion of what's excessive hrs to manufacture, wouldn't be any less than the same model horn that was? -But the effect of this is that any appreciable Monette horn development that occurs over time, would come to a halt?

You buy Monette, your paying for the continual and rigorous efforts that appear unwarranted, or of diminshed significance, yet are worthwhile in practice? Which doesn't necessarily put to ease my thinking that Dave's either indulging artistic license, or losing artistic struggle with what's genuine discernment of timely returns on efforts here, and of today? It may well be reasonable to suggest that Monette horn development can evolve, unimpeded- with less hrs spent in the manufacture of their horns?

Then again, maybe not? Undoubtedly there's ego involved in this interpretation from both the artist and the buyer. Apologies for the off-topic meander here, but Monette's horns strike me worth the discussion.


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