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Old 01-25-2007, 08:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Dillon's Tomorrow

It would be cooler if the "resonance stone" glowed as the horn warmed up. Maybe the accoustical experts who are making precise adjustments can set that up too.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok, So its basically a B&S trumpet with a stone
Yup. Just like Kanstul makes Smith & Watkins, Caliccio, Destino, Wild Thing, Zeus. (and used to make Besson).
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Unless your current horn is nearly un-playable my advice would be to put off the search until your chops are a little more conditioned. After just 3 months back you can't really make a sound judgement on what would be a good horn for you. Give your chops at least another 6 months. I base this on my own experiences. After several months my chops were changing and I found my preferences changed as well. What I feel comfortable playing now is not what I chose initially, you may be the same. And although I don't play one, I would add Getzen to that list of instruments. They have expanded the line and so far every one I tried is stellar and would compare favorably to any of the other choices. I also tried pretty much everthing suggested so far and all are great horns. It's the individual characteristics that seperate them. Good Luck!
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Scotter, Walt, and Toots are right. If you can't hold back though, ask what you can have for $700 from their used inventory.

I followed Mr. Donaldson's advice and bought a K-Modified for about $700. Sticker shock pretty much numbed me when I came back because 25+ years ago we were selling Bachs for $400.

To clarify, Jim Donaldson wasn't hawking Selmer horns, but he made the point one can pick up a great used horn for about $700. I paid $680 for my K. At the time, it made sense to me, and I do not regret how I went about it.

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Old 01-25-2007, 02:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yep the famous Cannonball Trumpet with the "Magic Stone".

http://www.cannonballmusic.com/stonetrumpets.php

"They'll stone ya when you're playing on your horn....
They'll stone in the very early morn...
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' ta play your scales...
They'll stone ya when everything else fails.

I would not feel so all alone...
Everybody's gonna get stoned"


Remeber THAT one Manny?

*Not their real theme song.

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Y'know, it's funny. I've never done weed but I swear, every time I hear that song it makes me giggle and laugh. I think it's those descending horn lines that crack me up and Dylan getting into the gravelly part of his voice. I'm not a big Dylan fan but that song's fun.

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yup. Just like Kanstul makes Smith & Watkins, Caliccio, Destino, Wild Thing, Zeus. (and used to make Besson).
... Kanstul does NOT make Calicchio.
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Dillon's Tomorrow

solar bell said:I would not feel so all alone...
Everybody's gonna get stoned".

I truley feel the same way chuck!
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:34 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks for all your help guys...good advice. I played many horns yesterday for about 3 hrs. I didn't buy anything! Restraining myself was hard. I really have to say that Dillon's is really great....no sales pressure, just come in and play anything you want, and then leave!

It was a very worthwhile experience as now I know what I do and don't like. I thought I would like the lightweight horns, but I didn't. Especially the YTR-8310z....man it sounded stuffy (i played two of them, both were the same)

To make a long story short, I really enjoyed playing some old strads they had hanging there. (All 37's varying in age). The warmth of the tone far outweighed the lightweight model's marginal improvement in ease of play. (I played new Kanstul's, Xeno's and YTR-6000 series too with the same great results).

What I really liked as a brand new strad 72 w/ reverse lead. Don't know if it was a pre or post strike model. My dad, who's a professional trombonist, said that one sounded the best. But for $1800...not right now.

I'll wait another 3-6 months and give my chops some more time to improve.

Again, thanks for the great advice!
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Way to go! Yes, resisting the impluse to buy is difficult. Keep us posted on your search, practice, musings, etc.

After a year of practicing, I bought a new Bb. She hasn't arrived yet, and I'm glad I waited. The year gave me a chance to see what's what playing wise, practice daily except for a 2 month "aw phoeey" when I got discouraged because I couldn't find ensembles in our small town.

If you keep at it and begin playing in bands, you'll have another source to augment your horn investigations. The players in the section. You get to know someone, make friends, and you also can try their horns. The time also gives you lots of observations to consider from other trumpet players here and you might want to check out the Trumpet Herald forum too.

Since you're in the east coast, if you can make to Amherst, MA when the ITG (International Trumpet Guild) conference occurs in May/June, there will be oodles of manufacturers with their horns to try.

It's 2,000 miles from me so I won't be there. But Banff, Canada, will be hosting the conference next year, and it's 800 miles. I'm looking forward to attending then.

All the Best,

Richard Oliver

p.s. my layoff was 25 years before I resumed playing.

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Re: Dillon's Tomorrow

If you are not taking lessons - might give it a try. Restarting with good habits is helpful. Ask other trumpeters who they use - and listen to how they play.

When I restarted my wife suggested that if I was going to continue to embarrass myself on that horn (also a Getzen) I might as well get lessons. I still embarrass her I think.
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