How "hand made" is a Schilke? - Page 3

BachMan · 02-07-2004, 12:50 PM

Last time I checked Mr. Schilke passed away in 1982.

I have a feeling he might be "lurking" on this trumpet master site but I doubt he is posting.

I will say that I am sure "oldmaz" knows more about what goes on with Schilke than anyone on this site :!:

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Originally Posted by joe brown

For those on the Schilke forum that want to talk to the master about Schilke trumpets I have a suspicion that you are talking to the master Ren Schilke. So I wouldn't be so quick in saying that the OLDMAZ doesn't know what he is talking about. I have 4 Schilkes now and they are the best.

trpguyy · 02-07-2004, 12:54 PM

Reynold O. passed in '82. I think joe brown was talking about Reynold E.

BachMan · 02-07-2004, 12:56 PM

Now I get it :wink:

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Originally Posted by trpguyy

Reynold O. passed in '82. I think joe brown was talking about Reynold E.

dcstep · 02-07-2004, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe brown

I have 4 Schilkes now and they are the best.

For you...

There's no such thing as "the best."

joe brown · 02-07-2004, 03:13 PM

Maybe for David I should qualify THE BEST

The best for Me.

DrunkIQ · 02-07-2004, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe brown

Maybe for David I should qualify THE BEST

The best for Me.

Ditto!

dcstep · 02-07-2004, 03:39 PM

Finally we agree, Schilke IS NOT "the best."

Just foolin' with you Schilke huggers. I love them, they're great horns that I'd recommend to many others.

Dave

bkmdano · 02-07-2004, 03:40 PM

Did I accidentally fall into a Zeus thread?

Anyway it was mentioned earlier about work hours, average wages ect., and then marketing was mentioned. What marketing? :? Schilke may not have the best everything but they are one of the few manufacturers who put CUSTOM quality into everything they do! I have owned a Schilke and will own another one. No one makes better valves or has the rich tone for which Schilkes are known. Add that to the CUSTOM quality and you have a great horn. 8)

dcstep · 02-07-2004, 06:08 PM

You want marketing, well, every twenty-years, whether they need it or not, Schilke comes out with a brand new black and white catalog with there standard models. (Oh wait, every Schilke is "custom" so they couldn't possibly have "models).

Their dealers make a "margin", so that's a marketing cost (avoid by Wild Thing, V-Raptor, Carvin Guitars, etc. by selling only factory direct.) There's even a guy lurking around here that bills himself as a marketing director.

Oh wait, they did put a lovely picture of a gold plated Eb horn in the ITG Journal. (That one actually made my mouth watered and almost qualified Schilke as a 21st Century marketer. There is hope.)

Anyway, there are "marketing costs" at Schilke. The horns don't quite sell themselves. You've got to at least get them in front a few potential customers, which they do fairly effectively, considering their production volumes.

BTW, I'm just trying to have a discussion here. As I've said several times, Schilkes are among my favorite horns. These marque-specific forums have their downside in that it's too easy to be perceived as a basher or anti-marque if you question the brand's "factoids". Oh well, that's part of what makes life interesting.

Dave

DrunkIQ · 02-17-2004, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcstep

every twenty-years, whether they need it or not, Schilke comes out with a brand new black and white catalog

Dave

LOL

I spoke with them at TMEA. They are working on a new catalog for 2005. No, it is not the same black and white one that we keep seeing.

I do see a small poster on EBay from time to time... I am still kicking myself for not getting the one with the P5-4 with the white background.

-marc

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dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 680	Finally we agree, Schilke IS NOT "the best." Just foolin' with you Schilke huggers. I love them, they're great horns that I'd recommend to many others. Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

02-07-2004, 06:08 PM	#29 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 680	You want marketing, well, every twenty-years, whether they need it or not, Schilke comes out with a brand new black and white catalog with there standard models. (Oh wait, every Schilke is "custom" so they couldn't possibly have "models). Their dealers make a "margin", so that's a marketing cost (avoid by Wild Thing, V-Raptor, Carvin Guitars, etc. by selling only factory direct.) There's even a guy lurking around here that bills himself as a marketing director. Oh wait, they did put a lovely picture of a gold plated Eb horn in the ITG Journal. (That one actually made my mouth watered and almost qualified Schilke as a 21st Century marketer. There is hope.) Anyway, there are "marketing costs" at Schilke. The horns don't quite sell themselves. You've got to at least get them in front a few potential customers, which they do fairly effectively, considering their production volumes. BTW, I'm just trying to have a discussion here. As I've said several times, Schilkes are among my favorite horns. These marque-specific forums have their downside in that it's too easy to be perceived as a basher or anti-marque if you question the brand's "factoids". Oh well, that's part of what makes life interesting. Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

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02-07-2004, 12:54 PM	#22 (permalink)
trpguyy Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 288	Reynold O. passed in '82. I think joe brown was talking about Reynold E.

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joe brown New Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: atlanta,ga/st. croix usvi Posts: 14	Maybe for David I should qualify THE BEST The best for Me.

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bkmdano New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 32	Did I accidentally fall into a Zeus thread? Anyway it was mentioned earlier about work hours, average wages ect., and then marketing was mentioned. What marketing? :? Schilke may not have the best everything but they are one of the few manufacturers who put CUSTOM quality into everything they do! I have owned a Schilke and will own another one. No one makes better valves or has the rich tone for which Schilkes are known. Add that to the CUSTOM quality and you have a great horn. 8)

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