Tootsall

Don't S&W have their own leadpipes put on the basic horn which comes from Kanstul? I believe that Leigh McK at Eclipse also does "some" of the finishing for S&W.

trumpet blower88

I do think Kanstuls' Horns are better when it has the actual Kanstul name on it. Even though some of the other horns like Besson ans S&W are still made by Kanstul, why wouldn't you put more effort and better quality into your own company rather than someone else's company? It makes you look better, and in todays competitive world thats what you need to do.

dbacon

You can certainly find world class Kanstuls, no matter if it says Besson (by Kanstul) or Callet or any of the other trumpets Zig has ghosted for someone else.

There are also some Kanstuls out there that did pass without much inspection....

A great Kanstul is a fine trumpet indeed!

With Jack here in Phoenix you can play/test to your hearts content and find THE Kanstul!

Jack will work hard to find you a horn that fits you!!!!!!

You do need to play them, look and listen very carefully.

trumpet blower88

In my opinion hes just trying to make the Kanstul line a step above the rest. He's not really insaulting the other names, just makeing his own seem better. If you had the amazeing advantage that Kanstul has in Zig, wouldn't you take it as far as it can go? All's fair in love and war my friend...

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Oh damn... that last post was erased... now I feel stupid...

Kanstulbrass

Maybe this will answer questions, or maybe it will create new ones...

When we build horns for our customers, we put as much of our skill and knowledge into them as we do for our own products. The difference, however, is that Kanstul horns are Zig Kanstul designs, whereas other horns are built to our customer's specifications.

Remember that the horns we produce for other names or companies are made to their specifications and budgets. We do the best we can with what we are given to work with, but everything that comes out of our factory is very high quality.

Regards,

Mikey

Charles, I could not agree more. I had recently bought a Scodwell Bb from Tony. As we know, he gets his parts from your Father. Tony assembles the horns, anneals the bells, and tests them out completely. If there is something wrong with the horn, he does not release it until it plays to his satisfaction. What makes Tony's assembly job easier is the fact that the Kanstul parts are made to very close tolerances and they are very consistent.

I also bought a Scodwell flugelhorn from Tony. Now these horns are assembled in the Kanstul shop, using Kanstul parts, made to Tony's specifications. The completed flugles are sent to Tony. He play tests them all, and does some tweaking if necessary. This is an incredible flugelhorn, the best I have ever owned. It does not have a lot of the quirks that other flugels have. Sure, I paid a lot more for this horn than other flugels cost, but that higher price is the result of a lot of hands-on extra work by both Kanstul and Scodwell.

And Tony is not shy about telling people where his parts come from. That he uses Kanstul parts should say alot about the quality

Thanks, Tony and Zig!


Mike

Bourbon City

Tootsall,

Here in Kentucky we call the leadpipe for a S&W a gun barrel.

Sorry, but I really had to get rid of that comment you put into my head.

Tootsall

I've been kind of waiting for someone to pick up on that, Dale. I kept thinking "Smith & Wesson" while typing "S & W". It's got to be an engineering thing.

Off topic... did you ever get a reply from that guy who was making music stand trays? Do you want me to ask my daughter next time I speak to her? (she plays in same community band as he)

B15M

"Remember: Nothing Resonates like a Kanstul. Nothing!!! "


Nothing Resonates like a Bach also. Does that mean that one is better then another?

trumpet blower88

In my opinion, Kanstuls resonate much better than Bachs... No offence to people who play bachs... They both have there strengths and weaknesses, but in the "resonateing catagory", Kanstul definatly has the upperhand...