King Silver Flair 2055S vs Jupiter Tribute 1200S - Page 2

oldlou · 03-26-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MFfan

Here's another old Michigander on the forums! I hope we get rid of the snow a little earilier than July 4th! I have been tempted to drain my snowblower several times, as it usually doesn't get much use, except this year! Sort of getting the itch to crank up the mower and rake up the leaves I didn't get to last fall!

Good luck to txharp3 on the horn search for whatever works best! Up till a couple of years ago, I played a Strad for 22yrs, got bored, discovered Ebay and Forums, and my horn list resulted and lots of fun, despite a couple of duds along the way. Now if I can just afford a couple of Ambassadors........

This from another Michigander; I am in G.R. and Dave,( MFFAN ) is a good friend. I hope that he feels the same about me as I feel that I have been at least partially, to blame for encouraging his growing trumpet/cornet inventory.

OLDLOU>>

MFfan · 03-26-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oldlou

This from another Michigander; I am in G.R. and Dave,( MFFAN ) is a good friend. I hope that he feels the same about me as I feel that I have been at least partially, to blame for encouraging his growing trumpet/cornet inventory.

OLDLOU>>

You sure are a good friend and partially responsible for my looking for interesting acquisitions, sort of inspiration and envy and increasing knowledge, coupled with lack of funds handicap.

I have had the acquisition bug for many years, being a garage saler, thrift shop scavenger and my many stereo and video systems, recordings of all sorts, over the last 40 yrs. are hard to hide. Glad you are taking the credit you deserve.

oldlou · 03-26-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MFfan

You sure are a good friend and partially responsible for my looking for interesting acquisitions, sort of inspiration and envy and increasing knowledge, coupled with lack of funds handicap.

I have had the acquisition bug for many years, being a garage saler, thrift shop scavenger and my many stereo and video systems, recordings of all sorts, over the last 40 yrs. are hard to hide. Glad you are taking the credit you deserve.

Gee, thanks for the flowers.

OLDLOU>>

txharp3 · 03-26-2008, 11:43 PM

Thanks again for the feedback, everyone.

I am still pondering the choices, but I am planning to make a decision by tomorrow.

Ted

oldlou · 03-27-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by txharp3

Hello everyone,

I am a comeback trumpeter, and seeking a new horn. At the moment, I am borrowing a King 600, which is in fairly decent condition. However, since I am starting lessons next week, I thought it would be best to purchase my own horn, and one that I can grow into over the next couple of years.

I have narrowed down my options to following options:

Jupiter Tribute 1200S Trumpet
King Silver Flair 2055S Trumpet

I do realize that both of the horns are not the "best" on the market, and I can purchase a used professional model for the same price or cheaper. However, I really want a new horn.

With that said, is there anyone that can provide feedback on the aforementioned horns and their suitability for jazz, funk and soul music?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Ted

Buying a second quality instrument just because it is new is gross financial and artistic foolishness!!!! Be aware, the minute that you take possession of such a piece its marketability and market value goes down dramatically, just like buying a new car. The higher the quality of a horn, the better its resale value. Many top line accomplished instrumentalists have learned long ago that in most cases, the best instruments are the old ones. Can you imagine such as Bud Herseth giving up the Bach C trumpet that he has played for over forty years in The Chicago Symphony to play a sparkling new Bundy or Jupiter, or almost any violinist turning down an original Stradivarius violin from severral hundred years ago? I have a rather extensive 'accumilation' of elderly fine instruments that I play regularly in public, by choice. An example of this is the solo that I played as the featured soloist at a large local church on Easter Morning. It is a 1939 vintage Conn Concert Grand cornet. My trumpeter friend, Dave Rafferty has been in my music room and played most of my horns and I am certain that he would turn down most new horns to be able to gain access to owning many of my old horns.

OLDLOU>>

oldlou · 03-27-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by txharp3

Hello everyone,

I am a comeback trumpeter, and seeking a new horn. At the moment, I am borrowing a King 600, which is in fairly decent condition. However, since I am starting lessons next week, I thought it would be best to purchase my own horn, and one that I can grow into over the next couple of years.

I have narrowed down my options to following options:

Jupiter Tribute 1200S Trumpet
King Silver Flair 2055S Trumpet

I do realize that both of the horns are not the "best" on the market, and I can purchase a used professional model for the same price or cheaper. However, I really want a new horn.

With that said, is there anyone that can provide feedback on the aforementioned horns and their suitability for jazz, funk and soul music?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Ted

Buying a second quality instrument just because it is new is gross financial and artistic foolishness!!!! Be aware, the minute that you take possession of such a piece its marketability and market value goes down dramatically, just like buying a new car. The higher the quality of a horn, the better its resale value. Many top line accomplished instrumentalists have learned long ago that in most cases, the best instruments are the old ones. Can you imagine such as Bud Herseth giving up the Bach C trumpet that he has played for over forty years in The Chicago Symphony to play a sparkling new Bundy or Jupiter, or almost any violinist turning down an original Stradivarius violin from severral hundred years ago? I have a rather extensive 'accumilation' of elderly fine instruments that I play regularly in public, by choice. An example of this is the solo that I played as the featured soloist at a large local church on Easter Morning. It is a 1939 vintage Conn Concert Grand cornet. My trumpeter friend, Dave Rafferty has been in my music room and played most of my horns and I am certain that he would turn down most new horns to be able to gain access to owning many of my old horns.

OLDLOU>>

txharp3 · 03-27-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oldlou

Buying a second quality instrument just because it is new is gross financial and artistic foolishness!!!!

I truly understand your point. The financial aspect does not concern me, as much as the artistic aspect. I do wish to purchase a trumpet that will satify my playing needs for a very, very long time. In return, this scenario will also address the financial aspect, as I will not purchase another trumpet in the foreseeable future (now, a flugelhorn is another isssue

).

After debating the issue over the past few days, I skipped the intermediate trumpets and purchase a professional horn, the Jupiter 1602S-R Tribune XO Series Pro Trumpet (silver model with reverse leadpipe).

In the end, I am happy with the decision.

KRax! · 03-27-2008, 06:46 PM

That´s what the guy beside me in our community/concert band (depending on season,

) plays, although a few years older than your brand new one. Very nice horn! You may have found your 40 years keeper.

walldaja · 04-02-2008, 12:14 PM

I agree with everyone who said go to a place where you can compare several different horns. That said, I do have a Jupiter 1200 that I bought before the price took off and I really don't have any complaints about it. It is substantial (heavy) and well built and I've never had any complaints about it. It replaced a Blessing ML-1 that had intoation issues above the staff. I have two other Jupiter horns, a flugel and a t-bone (can I say that in a trumpet forum?) and am well satisfied by them. Check out the brasswind but don't forget your local stores too, I've had several match WWBW prices when I showed them a catalog--plus you have a local connection for service.

mctrumpet · 04-07-2008, 05:31 PM

I played both of these horns and I currently play a King Silver Flair 2055t(which has a trigger instead of a saddle) For the money around 1000 its probably worth it. It can be used in many setting and sound good. The slotting above a high "C" is not that great though but it can be overcame. Hope that helps

03-26-2008, 11:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
txharp3 New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 9	Re: King Silver Flair 2055S vs Jupiter Tribute 1200S Thanks again for the feedback, everyone. I am still pondering the choices, but I am planning to make a decision by tomorrow. Ted

03-27-2008, 06:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
KRax! Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hälsingland Posts: 51	Re: King Silver Flair 2055S vs Jupiter Tribute 1200S That´s what the guy beside me in our community/concert band (depending on season, ) plays, although a few years older than your brand new one. Very nice horn! You may have found your 40 years keeper.

04-02-2008, 12:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
walldaja New Friend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kokomo, IN Posts: 19	Re: King Silver Flair 2055S vs Jupiter Tribute 1200S I agree with everyone who said go to a place where you can compare several different horns. That said, I do have a Jupiter 1200 that I bought before the price took off and I really don't have any complaints about it. It is substantial (heavy) and well built and I've never had any complaints about it. It replaced a Blessing ML-1 that had intoation issues above the staff. I have two other Jupiter horns, a flugel and a t-bone (can I say that in a trumpet forum?) and am well satisfied by them. Check out the brasswind but don't forget your local stores too, I've had several match WWBW prices when I showed them a catalog--plus you have a local connection for service.

04-07-2008, 05:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
mctrumpet Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FL Posts: 55	Re: King Silver Flair 2055S vs Jupiter Tribute 1200S I played both of these horns and I currently play a King Silver Flair 2055t(which has a trigger instead of a saddle) For the money around 1000 its probably worth it. It can be used in many setting and sound good. The slotting above a high "C" is not that great though but it can be overcame. Hope that helps

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