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trumpetpimp · 02-13-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dave_59

yeah i bet a monette is 4 times better.
my arse

That's pretty closed minded. Don't you think? Why does everyone hate Monette so much? I've never played one but if I had the opportunity to go to the shop and see what a $10 000 trumpet plays like I would jump at it. I might even try and raise the money to buy one if I liked them enough.

I can already see your reply coming...

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Originally Posted by dave_59 is going to write

No trumpet is worth $10 000. I would never pay $10 000 for a trumpet, not even if I had millions of dollars.

Sigh.

dave_59 · 02-13-2005, 05:25 PM

no if i had a million dollars i might buy one. cmcdougall makes sure everyone knows that hes getting a monette and he does his best to make sure everoyone knows they are better (supposedly) than anything they have. thats what i dont like.
plus there are players that could play better on his strad than he can on a monette. It aint the horn, its the player.
dave

JackD · 02-13-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dave_59

no if i had a million dollars i might buy one. cmcdougall makes sure everyone knows that hes getting a monette and he does his best to make sure everoyone knows they are better (supposedly) than anything they have. thats what i dont like.
plus there are players that could play better on his strad than he can on a monette. It aint the horn, its the player.
dave

Who cares? As you say, buying a horn won't buy you a career.

Leave him alone.

cmcdougall · 02-13-2005, 06:36 PM

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plus there are players that could play better on his strad than he can on a monette. It aint the horn, its the player.
dave

Ok that saying about it "not being the horn" is now officially OVERUSED, a good horn doesnt make a bad player good, gold plated 5hit is still 5hit, but a good horn definitly makes a good player be able to much easier express what he/she feels musically, i think this is the philosophy of all the great custom horn makers out there now, lawler, eclipse, marckiniewiz, and god forbid even monette.

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cmcdougall makes sure everyone knows that hes getting a monette

AND i've worked the past 3 summers every day to pay for it so i am proud of it, and see it as an investment into my future. That trumpet will be making wonderful music by someone even if its not me after any car a normal teenager wouldve bought with the same amount of money will be collecting rust in the junk-yard.

trumpetpimp · 02-13-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dave_59

plus there are players that could play better on his strad than he can on a monette. It aint the horn, its the player.
dave

Well, no kidding. But that's not the point, is it? There are lots of excellent players playing Monettes(and Bach, and Lawer, and Yamaha, and Kanstul and most other major manufacturers). The point is that they choose the instrument that is easiest for them to play. Why are you giving him a hard time for buying an instrument that he loves?

Schwab · 02-13-2005, 10:42 PM

I thought we were talking about Lawlers.

the chief · 02-14-2005, 01:40 AM

I have owned 2 Lawlers. The first was a Lawler LT21B-1A SLS Satin Gold, with the detachable bell and Samsonite briefcase. I bought it off of ebay having never played a Lawler, and I was hooked for life.

It wasn't quite what I wanted as far as specs, so I traded it in for a brand new Lawler TL6R-1A, custom-made to my specs. My new Lawler is indeed the best horn I've ever played. It's redbrass bell is perfect for my concept of sound. I can get any sound I want, and the trumpet overall has a dark sound. The response is perfect. It has the perfect amount of resistance that I like.

I was worried that a trumpet with a redbrass bell and dark sound wouldn't cut it for lead playing, but I have to admit this is the best lead-trumpet horn I've played since the Wild Thing. It's very easy to play, and it sounds so great. The tone cuts through just fine and balances very good with the rest of the section.

Roy Lawler makes some of the nicest looking horns, but it's the way the respond and sound that is the true genius of his work.

fatcat · 02-23-2005, 06:57 PM

I own a large bore model T, and I'm very happy with it.

I play a lot of lead, and it works well for that, but I really like how warm and even the sound is up until the upper register. As everyone says, the response is very nice, and in fact the only complaint at all that I could make about the horn is that it does not seem to slot Double G (G over High C) as well as some other horns that I've played. I'll admit, I don't have the best double G, but it locks in more consistently on most other trumpets for me. (I also gave the horn to my teacher, and he was having a similar problem) Although, the model T is the only horn I can get a Double A to come out on, so I guess you take what you can get. The sound is by far the most important part anyway.

The one thing that I've noticed in the time since I ordered it, is that it keeps getting easier and easier to play as I become more attuned to it.

the chief · 02-28-2005, 10:29 AM

Another thing about Roy Lawler.

Recently I have been working with Roy, and the guy is really bending over backwards to make me feel satisfied. You'll be very hard pressed to get this type of service from any other trumpet manufacturer.

I think this goes a very long way in today's business environment.

Here's another pic of a Lawler

Tootsall · 02-28-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the chief

Another thing about Roy Lawler.

Recently I have been working with Roy, and the guy is really bending over backwards to make me feel satisfied. You'll be very hard pressed to get this type of service from any other trumpet manufacturer.

I think this goes a very long way in today's business environment.

Right on! That's why guys like Roy, Leigh, Andrew or Phil at Schilke, the Kanstul clan, Andy Taylor, etc. are doing as well as they do and don't seem to collect the "baggage" that the "conglomerates" have. You can call or email and you'll actually get someone who CARES about sorting out your problem for you. Try getting in touch with someone at Selmer! HA!

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02-13-2005, 05:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
dave_59 New Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 36	no if i had a million dollars i might buy one. cmcdougall makes sure everyone knows that hes getting a monette and he does his best to make sure everoyone knows they are better (supposedly) than anything they have. thats what i dont like. plus there are players that could play better on his strad than he can on a monette. It aint the horn, its the player. dave

02-14-2005, 01:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
the chief Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 61	I have owned 2 Lawlers. The first was a Lawler LT21B-1A SLS Satin Gold, with the detachable bell and Samsonite briefcase. I bought it off of ebay having never played a Lawler, and I was hooked for life. It wasn't quite what I wanted as far as specs, so I traded it in for a brand new Lawler TL6R-1A, custom-made to my specs. My new Lawler is indeed the best horn I've ever played. It's redbrass bell is perfect for my concept of sound. I can get any sound I want, and the trumpet overall has a dark sound. The response is perfect. It has the perfect amount of resistance that I like. I was worried that a trumpet with a redbrass bell and dark sound wouldn't cut it for lead playing, but I have to admit this is the best lead-trumpet horn I've played since the Wild Thing. It's very easy to play, and it sounds so great. The tone cuts through just fine and balances very good with the rest of the section. Roy Lawler makes some of the nicest looking horns, but it's the way the respond and sound that is the true genius of his work.

02-23-2005, 06:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
fatcat New Friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 23	I own a large bore model T, and I'm very happy with it. I play a lot of lead, and it works well for that, but I really like how warm and even the sound is up until the upper register. As everyone says, the response is very nice, and in fact the only complaint at all that I could make about the horn is that it does not seem to slot Double G (G over High C) as well as some other horns that I've played. I'll admit, I don't have the best double G, but it locks in more consistently on most other trumpets for me. (I also gave the horn to my teacher, and he was having a similar problem) Although, the model T is the only horn I can get a Double A to come out on, so I guess you take what you can get. The sound is by far the most important part anyway. The one thing that I've noticed in the time since I ordered it, is that it keeps getting easier and easier to play as I become more attuned to it.

02-28-2005, 10:29 AM	#19 (permalink)
the chief Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 61	Another thing about Roy Lawler. Recently I have been working with Roy, and the guy is really bending over backwards to make me feel satisfied. You'll be very hard pressed to get this type of service from any other trumpet manufacturer. I think this goes a very long way in today's business environment. Here's another pic of a Lawler

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