My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion - Page 2

old geezer · 10-27-2005, 02:00 PM

I have an old Olds cornet that I would love doing all that to but I do believe that mommy wouldn't allow me to spend the dead presidents. old geezer Dave

oldlou · 10-27-2005, 03:12 PM

Geezer, I have the same problem with my 'boss'. I have a Getzen Super Deluxe Cornet with the typical crushed bell that I would love to send in for such a conversion,"BUT". I also have a Conn Conductor with a bell that is bent at the curve, quite badly. The rest of the horn is excellent. I would like to find a replacement bell for it, but, with Directors selling for about $35.00 with a good case on ebay, I can't justify buying a high priced bell for this one. If I am lucky, I might find a bargain on a bell for the old Conn.

OLDLOU>>

old geezer · 10-28-2005, 08:45 AM

I already had my tech put on a modern receiver that accepts regular mouthpieces and cut my tubes that hold the tuning slide so that I can push the slide farther in to get it in tune. I took it to reh. last night and played it on a couple of tunes and could not believe how much easier the upper range played compared to my trumpet [ Benge 2X mlp ]. I wish my Benge played that open. I did notice that the intonation wasn't as close as my Benge but the cornet was an absolute ball to play. old geezer Dave

elExtranjero · 12-02-2005, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Stu

Clarence,
Those are the pis Garry sent me. I should get the horn sometime next week. I'll surely post after I play it.
-Stu

That is one gorgeous horn! So how does it play??? Did you get "Awesome… Sexy…Dark & Vibrant” ???

conncoprion · 05-28-2007, 06:23 PM

wowzers....kindof a "frankensteinish" horn if you ask me...but I love it anyways. You can't beat those Coprion bells. ALthough I do wonder why no one has bought or copied Conn's process of making seamless copper bells. Aren't most copper bells today made out of sheet copper? Apparently Conn knew what and how to do...and turned out thousands of seamless bells.................wonder why no one else has caught on? or am I just clueless?

PS speaking of 17a Director Coprion bells...I would never change a thing on my little cornet.....it still has all the orginal lacquer...a nice "honey, rose" color...I'll have to post a pic sometime...

Vulgano Brother · 05-28-2007, 07:59 PM

If we still get to vote for finishes, I'd suggest clear lacquer after polishing the heck out of it--some serious old school bling! Oops--about two years too late!

MJ · 05-28-2007, 08:02 PM

Can you give us a link to this guys shop?

DubbaCTrumpetMSU · 05-28-2007, 08:28 PM

MJ,
Garry Stoner is the guy building the New York Trumpet Company's California and Classic models. He is a master! And a really nice guy to boot. I'm not sure, but he might still do his overhauls. Hope he doesn't mind, but leave him a PM here on TM- prof5 is his name on here. I'm not sure if he still does custom work on old horns or not...if he does, I've got another horn I want him to work on...I don't think he has his own personal site.

Russ

rowuk · 05-29-2007, 03:53 AM

A very good reason for NOT using Conns technique for seamless bells (whatever that really means?????) is that there are many roads leading to wonderful - many less expensive - and still without comprimise!
This is one beautiful horn though!

10-27-2005, 02:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
old geezer Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indianapolis,In. Posts: 174	I have an old Olds cornet that I would love doing all that to but I do believe that mommy wouldn't allow me to spend the dead presidents. old geezer Dave __________________ L.A.Benge 2ML 16389 L.A.Benge 2MLP 11745 K- Allmen 1414 Yamaha 231 Flugel 15383 Olds Amb. Cornet 50734

10-27-2005, 03:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 654	coprion bells Geezer, I have the same problem with my 'boss'. I have a Getzen Super Deluxe Cornet with the typical crushed bell that I would love to send in for such a conversion,"BUT". I also have a Conn Conductor with a bell that is bent at the curve, quite badly. The rest of the horn is excellent. I would like to find a replacement bell for it, but, with Directors selling for about $35.00 with a good case on ebay, I can't justify buying a high priced bell for this one. If I am lucky, I might find a bargain on a bell for the old Conn. OLDLOU>>

10-28-2005, 08:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
old geezer Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indianapolis,In. Posts: 174	I already had my tech put on a modern receiver that accepts regular mouthpieces and cut my tubes that hold the tuning slide so that I can push the slide farther in to get it in tune. I took it to reh. last night and played it on a couple of tunes and could not believe how much easier the upper range played compared to my trumpet [ Benge 2X mlp ]. I wish my Benge played that open. I did notice that the intonation wasn't as close as my Benge but the cornet was an absolute ball to play. old geezer Dave __________________ L.A.Benge 2ML 16389 L.A.Benge 2MLP 11745 K- Allmen 1414 Yamaha 231 Flugel 15383 Olds Amb. Cornet 50734

05-28-2007, 06:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
conncoprion New Friend Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 38	Re: My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion wowzers....kindof a "frankensteinish" horn if you ask me...but I love it anyways. You can't beat those Coprion bells. ALthough I do wonder why no one has bought or copied Conn's process of making seamless copper bells. Aren't most copper bells today made out of sheet copper? Apparently Conn knew what and how to do...and turned out thousands of seamless bells.................wonder why no one else has caught on? or am I just clueless? PS speaking of 17a Director Coprion bells...I would never change a thing on my little cornet.....it still has all the orginal lacquer...a nice "honey, rose" color...I'll have to post a pic sometime... __________________ 1941 Conn 36A Concert Grand Cornet 1945 Martin Committee Trumpet 1964 Conn Director 17A Coprion Cornet 1966 Olds Studio Trumpet 1960's Holton Collegiate Trumpet Philippians 1:6

05-28-2007, 07:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,265	Re: My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion If we still get to vote for finishes, I'd suggest clear lacquer after polishing the heck out of it--some serious old school bling! Oops--about two years too late! __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org Last edited by Vulgano Brother; 05-28-2007 at 08:01 PM. Reason: Old thread!

05-28-2007, 08:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
MJ Forte User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Naptown Posts: 1,908	Re: My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion Can you give us a link to this guys shop? __________________

05-28-2007, 08:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
DubbaCTrumpetMSU Piano User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 340	Re: My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion MJ, Garry Stoner is the guy building the New York Trumpet Company's California and Classic models. He is a master! And a really nice guy to boot. I'm not sure, but he might still do his overhauls. Hope he doesn't mind, but leave him a PM here on TM- prof5 is his name on here. I'm not sure if he still does custom work on old horns or not...if he does, I've got another horn I want him to work on...I don't think he has his own personal site. Russ __________________ You don't use people to make music--you use music to make people. Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents D/Eb-Blessing... GR 66C*, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece... Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!! www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906

05-29-2007, 03:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,360	Re: My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion A very good reason for NOT using Conns technique for seamless bells (whatever that really means?????) is that there are many roads leading to wonderful - many less expensive - and still without comprimise! This is one beautiful horn though! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

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