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dcstep · 01-31-2004, 12:43 PM

It'd be nice to see Schilke begin to innovate again, but, as has been said before in this thread, that is unlikely. Whether they do or not, they'll have a position in the trumpet market for the forseeable future.

Fortunately there are people in the trumpet world at Eclipse, Taylor, Tanabe, Selmer-Paris and, lest we forget, Monette that are pushing the trumpet design envelop in all directions. We don't have to "agree" with all the designs in order to benefit. For better or worse, Monette started one trend toward heavier or with a different tembre, but others like Eclipse, Tanabe and Selmer Paris innovate in the pursuit of a more traditional trumpet sound.

Bach, Conn, Yamaha, Jupiter (!!) and others have all impoved quality control and tweaked their designs toward more resonant, responsive horns. At least part of this is response to the work of custom, boutique builders. Lawler, Blackburn, Stowell, Laskey, Malone, Reeves, etc., etc. have proven that people will pay "extra" for a well executed Bach-like or Martin-like or insertnamehere-like custom horn. The mega builders have stepped up their quality in response.

I think we're incredibly lucky to be living in a "golden age" of trumpet design and trumpet building. "Mistakes" will be made as designers take risks, but isn't that wonderful for us players? At least there is much to choose from.

Best regards,

Dave

DrunkIQ · 01-31-2004, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulldog

what exactly is the P7 all about? i havent heard anything about this. please explain.

it is a smaller bore P5-4 and there are very few out there...

WFUnix · 02-01-2004, 10:14 PM

I believe Kanstul makes a soundpost that will hold the tuning bell in place. I had mine lined with cork to keep it from scratching my finish.

DrunkIQ · 02-03-2004, 08:06 PM

well,

I picked up some better info on the P7...

It is currently uses the .450 like the P5-4 does. This is a 3 valve model and can be ordered with an optional 3rd valve slide that contains a rotor setup to allow notes under F# to be played. The bell is in a wrapped configuration which i am sure makes it look more like the smaller traditoinal piccolo's we are use to.

bulldog · 02-06-2004, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkIQ

. This is a 3 valve model and can be ordered with an optional 3rd valve slide that contains a rotor setup to allow notes under F# to be played. The bell is in a wrapped configuration which i am sure makes it look more like the smaller traditoinal piccolo's we are use to.

thats sounds like exactly what ive been waiting for all my life. nice.

01-31-2004, 12:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 680	It'd be nice to see Schilke begin to innovate again, but, as has been said before in this thread, that is unlikely. Whether they do or not, they'll have a position in the trumpet market for the forseeable future. Fortunately there are people in the trumpet world at Eclipse, Taylor, Tanabe, Selmer-Paris and, lest we forget, Monette that are pushing the trumpet design envelop in all directions. We don't have to "agree" with all the designs in order to benefit. For better or worse, Monette started one trend toward heavier or with a different tembre, but others like Eclipse, Tanabe and Selmer Paris innovate in the pursuit of a more traditional trumpet sound. Bach, Conn, Yamaha, Jupiter (!!) and others have all impoved quality control and tweaked their designs toward more resonant, responsive horns. At least part of this is response to the work of custom, boutique builders. Lawler, Blackburn, Stowell, Laskey, Malone, Reeves, etc., etc. have proven that people will pay "extra" for a well executed Bach-like or Martin-like or insertnamehere-like custom horn. The mega builders have stepped up their quality in response. I think we're incredibly lucky to be living in a "golden age" of trumpet design and trumpet building. "Mistakes" will be made as designers take risks, but isn't that wonderful for us players? At least there is much to choose from. Best regards, Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

02-03-2004, 08:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
DrunkIQ Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 198	Schilke P7 well, I picked up some better info on the P7... It is currently uses the .450 like the P5-4 does. This is a 3 valve model and can be ordered with an optional 3rd valve slide that contains a rotor setup to allow notes under F# to be played. The bell is in a wrapped configuration which i am sure makes it look more like the smaller traditoinal piccolo's we are use to. __________________ -marc melton

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02-01-2004, 10:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
WFUnix New Friend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 18	I believe Kanstul makes a soundpost that will hold the tuning bell in place. I had mine lined with cork to keep it from scratching my finish.

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