Old horns and resonance: fact or fiction? - Page 3

Tootsall · 04-27-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kinghornplayer

I think that there is something to it.

I have a 1964 - 1965 King Silver Flair and wouldn't trade it for the world. It plays very well nice, open, and ringing.

My Getzen Capri Cornet is not as old being a 1986 or so but same thing. It is a beautiful sounding sweet and mellow Cornet which I would not trade for anything.

I played a brand new Silverflair at the local music store and Yuck! Mine beat it hands down.

I also think your right about the player.

John, let's not forget that many (most?) of the newer models of "older" name horns are mass-produced whereas their "ancestors" were built with a lot more of the "craft" installed in them. In addition, design changes have been made in the brands that have carried on to make them more "mass-production friendly" (IOW, "CHEAP"). Essentially, any similarity other than the sequence of letters stamped on them is purely coincidental! (or else they are a Schilke!)

I also believe that older horns that have been worked on by service techs over the years have had a lot of the stress that "may" have originally been pre-installed, removed through the mechanism of unsoldering and resoldering certain connections "one at a time" rather than "all soldered at one shot while held in a jig".

Daff · 04-27-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trumpetera

The "melkification", is it an expensive operation?

It's all relative, based on what you need. I recall somewhere under $300 for him and Anderson's to do the valves. They're perfect. I had other stuff done also. Charlie installed his NY replacement leadpipe and receiver, valve alignment, blah, blah, blah.

Some think it was sacreligious to change the pipe and receiver, but it plays better and is gapped properly for my GR's. If Mr. Bach were alive today, he wouldn't want you playing on an imperfect leadpipe, so, to heck with all that 'collector' business. I like to play, and I'm sure Bach would have wanted his horns played, not displayed.

Here's Charlie's contact info.
http://www.charliesbrassworks.com/

Deecy · 04-29-2006, 03:53 PM

I'll never forget the first horn I bought. It was an old NY Bach. Had a terrific sound but I had to return it to the store - too many wrong notes in it.

dcstep · 04-29-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daff

Mine is a 1937 with a #10 bell, American brass, 51 gauge. Sweet horn.

51 gauge seems incredibly light. Back when I was a sheet metal worker, 28 gauger was very light. Seems like 51 gauge would be almost paper thin. Does anyone know if sheet metal gauges were different back in the 1930?

Dave

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Deecy Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 211	I'll never forget the first horn I bought. It was an old NY Bach. Had a terrific sound but I had to return it to the store - too many wrong notes in it. __________________ Tom//

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