sparctacus

I've got a getzen for sale if interested. 900 eterna SLB. email sparctacus@gmail.com or call 253-320-5144.

Ed Kennedy

For the same kind of bread you can find an Eterna 700. I recently found a mint used one on ebay for a student for about $450 and I've found them for less. These horns are incredible values.

francolinni

Hey Jude: (Sorry, couldn't help my self,bet ya hate that song) Anyway, I have a '74 Getzen Capri that's a realsweet little thing. Didn't need it, but the brushed silver w/ gold trim just lured me in. Yea, we all need more lessons and we all need more practice time. but doing it's alot more fun on a nice horn. Wanna drive a kia or a lexus? No brainer. If ya like it, can swing it, buy it! You'll smile when ya play it and get " THAT TONE " we all look for. Franco

Jude

Franc-ly (now we're even), I don't think I could have resisted brushed silver. With gold trim, you say? But first I want to ask rowuk how he teaches his beginning students to select a horn before jumping at the first pretty thing I see. Unless something really pretty that sounds really better than what I have shows up first, of course.

Coincidence or not, I just read an article (Pricing and the brain | Hitting the spot | Economist.com) about this: people have bothered to check - with functional magnetic-resonance imaging, no less - whether we actually enjoy more something we consider to be better (as opposed to just saying so to impress other people). As you apparently would have guessed, we do. So, since I'm probably not going to live forever - the odds are against it, I understand - I'm rethinking this New England tradition of "make do, or do without." But now I have to get back to my scales.

rowuk

I guess Claudia Schiffer would be classified as a "Top Model". Can we use that as a frame of reference for comparing your intermediate model girlfriend?

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rowuk

Jude,
many times I have nothing to say about the first instrument. If it is absolutely not suitable, our local wind band has instruments for rent. I do not believe in any old thing for beginners.

If the horn you have works, and it obviously works well enough or you would not have wanted to go back to your scales, you have time to save up. That time of anticipation, research, dreams will increase the actual EMOTIONAL value of the next horn manifold. My suggestion is to play EVERYTHING that you can get your hands on. Take notes, mental or written. Post your findings here in a positive, informative way! When the time is right, you will be ready. If you are not sure, just ask questions!

I played a Chinese horn last night. The brand was FASCH and it had a red brass bell and leadpipe (or they were laquered that color, I am not sure) and a cool hard shell gig bag. It was new and the valves were not oiled, but I was impressed. Well built, easy blow, in tune, reasonable projection. Everything I think a student horn should be. Under $400. The wind band is going to buy it to rent to "beginners". I try and play them all before we lay down any cash, and I check them when they come back from rental (I am not the only instructor). It is a good source of income for the band and the kids get quality instruments for the first couple of years until the parents decide to buy something.

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Jude

Hi Rowuk,

The horn I have is perfectly adequate for now, and maybe will be forever - it's a mid-1950s Olds Ambassador (a Fullerton - nothing for the vintage folks to get excited about. Raw brass, with only the slightest of dents in the bell.)

Shortly before Christmas I was tempted by the offer of a good deal on a beautiful (looking and sounding) Getzen that actually intimidated me a bit - beginners should not be entrusted with horns like that, it's almost indecent. Anyway, I remember your writing a while back about teaching your beginning students how to test horns when out shopping for their first "real" one - around $500, I think the level was. That was the procedure I was intending to ask you about, when the time comes.

At this point, it's the player that's the weak element in this horn-player system: I can't hear that I sound any different on a Bach Strad, so buying a new horn is obviously no necessity. But if I keep at my scales (long tones, lip slurs, pedal tones...) there may come a time when it will make sense to start trying out others. All in good time.

Next day: I just came across your thread http://www.trumpetmaster.com/vb/f139...ces-30829.html (Trumpet Design-Our Experiences) with people's descriptions of their horns. This is a good starting point for thinking about what parameters are important and how to test them.