Taylor Chicago II - Page 2

Jhorn229h · 07-13-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Liad Bar-EL

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Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

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Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

The guy just made a strong, passionate statement about a horn he really digs.

Why do you laugh at him, J229?

ML

I find it funny that there is yet ANOTHER "Chicago" model out there! This is indeed a glowing endorsement by Liad, but I don't describe someone as "honest" and "straight-forward" when most of his horns look like bad copies of Monettes. Has Andy Taylor ever been to Chicago?

How does the Taylor Chicago II compare to the Wild Thing C Trumpet?

J

The "honesty" and "straight forwardness" of Andy Taylor might over whelm you concerning his horns being compared to Monettes for he deals with this very openly unlike even most trumpet makers IMO: http://www.taylortrumpets.com/frameset.html

Andy is an artist and an artist is not confined to one particular way of making horns like other horn makers, including Monette. You can explore Taylor's site to verify this: http://www.taylortrumpets.com/

Here is just a small sample of what he makes which is very much unlike Monette.

Phat Boy Flugel

Here are a close up of those valves that you wanted to look at 40cal.

Copper 'Hartfield Edition' probably the finest ‘Smooth-Jazz’ trumpet available.

Chicago Compact trumpet

It is seven inches shorter than a regular Bb trumpet. It has a slide operated by the thumb of the left hand that can de-tune any note by up to a semitone. This enables the player to bend any note at will. Ravi Shankar also plays semitones on his sitar and even claims to have perfect pitch; so, here you go with a perfect pitch trumpet.

Here are a few more of them that you can click to enlarge.

http://www.bestwebpix.com/toys_hobby...FUxhEgoddATRhg

Andy Taylor has been all over the world and in most major cities of the USA including Chicago attending and displaying his horns at almost all trumpet conventions. If you would have taken part in any one of those conventions, you would have already known about this trumpet of mine and would have played it yourself so as to make that comparison with the Wild Thing C Trumpet for its maker was also in these same conventions.

You might want to try and get out a little bit more.

Liad Bar-EL

No thanks - I'd rather stay home and practice. George Vosburgh plays Bach and SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J

John P · 07-13-2006, 07:57 PM

And Bach is the only good make of horn out there? It's a wonder all those other brands don't go out of business!

Clarino · 07-13-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

How does the Taylor Chicago II compare to the Wild Thing C Trumpet?

Why would you want to compare a Taylor Chicago II Bb to a Wild Thing C?

That's like comparing a Ferrari to a Ducatti.

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Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

No thanks - I'd rather stay home and practice. George Vosburgh plays Bach and SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, obviously you must be exactly as good a trumpeter as George Vosburgh, and posess exactly the same sound.

Jhorn229h · 07-13-2006, 10:12 PM

[quote="Clarino"]

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Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

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Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

No thanks - I'd rather stay home and practice. George Vosburgh plays Bach and SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, obviously you must be exactly as good a trumpeter as George Vosburgh, and posess exactly the same sound.

I never said that, but someday I would like to possess the "BRILLIANCE" and sheer "FIREPOWER" of the MASTER!

J

Manny Laureano · 07-13-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

George Vosburgh plays Bach and SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J

J,

Let's be honest... had anyone else written something like that, you'd be all over it with smileys mocking them.

"Wynton Marsalis plays Monette and SO DO I!!!!!!!!" would have earned one of these:

or my personal favorite:

.

So, i'll just end this post with something we need more of around here lately:

ML

dcbrown1 · 07-13-2006, 11:05 PM

I have a Chicago II c trumpet. Beautiful horn...plays really well....big beautiful sound. Many folks actually prefer its tone over my Eclipse MR B-flat. That said, it's really heavy...to the point where it is somewhat hard to vary the sound. I recently tested a Monette P3...and what surprised me about the P3 was actually how light it was (yep...believe it or not) versus the Taylor. Anyway...it's a fantastic instrument for those who want a really solid sound...with super valves and responsiveness. Having played both the Monettes and the Taylors...while there are some similarities...I wouldn't call Andy's horns bad copies of Monettes by any means. I certainly agree with those who feel it is silly to bash horns...they're like golf clubs. Tons of great options that are very different...to accommodate the vast number of variables desired by diverse users. Dave Brown

mattdalton · 07-14-2006, 01:17 AM

Liad -
It's great to hear that you've found a trumpet that you really love. It seems that most of us trumpet players are conditioned to compare equipment specs, brand names, etc. But in the end it only matters that each of us has found an instrument that best enables us to make our music come alive. And when the instrument looks good and you can connect to it on an emotional level, that's icing on the cake. I'm glad to hear that you've found all that in the Taylor, and wish you many happy hours playing it.
- Matt

PhatmonB6 · 07-14-2006, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

George Vosburgh plays Bach and SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J

J,

Let's be honest... had anyone else written something like that, you'd be all over it with smileys mocking them.

"Wynton Marsalis plays Monette and SO DO I!!!!!!!!" would have earned one of these:

or my personal favorite:

.

So, i'll just end this post with something we need more of around here lately:

ML

Jhorn229h · 07-14-2006, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhorn229h

George Vosburgh plays Bach and SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J

J,

Let's be honest... had anyone else written something like that, you'd be all over it with smileys mocking them.

"Wynton Marsalis plays Monette and SO DO I!!!!!!!!" would have earned one of these:

or my personal favorite:

.

So, i'll just end this post with something we need more of around here lately:

ML

J

Liad Bar-EL · 07-14-2006, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcbrown1

I have a Chicago II c trumpet. Beautiful horn...plays really well....big beautiful sound. Many folks actually prefer its tone over my Eclipse MR B-flat. That said, it's really heavy...to the point where it is somewhat hard to vary the sound. I recently tested a Monette P3...and what surprised me about the P3 was actually how light it was (yep...believe it or not) versus the Taylor. Anyway...it's a fantastic instrument for those who want a really solid sound...with super valves and responsiveness. Having played both the Monettes and the Taylors...while there are some similarities...I wouldn't call Andy's horns bad copies of Monettes by any means. I certainly agree with those who feel it is silly to bash horns...they're like golf clubs. Tons of great options that are very different...to accommodate the vast number of variables desired by diverse users. Dave Brown

Thank you for your kind words Dave. It sounds very much like you understand what I am talking about.

If one is sensitive to the arts, and it is hoped that everyone here is very sensitive as an artistic trumpet musician, then you can understand that making a horn is like a work of art. Do you get the same feeling from an art piece that was made by hand with great feeling and with an interest to make it better or from a piece that was mass produced with no feeling and no interest other than "I want to go home"?

Also, there are horn makers, IMO, who have relied only on the technical aspects of making the horn and have lost altogether the art of making it. Andy is using both aspects of horn making, technical and the arts, in grand style and you can see this in his web site (http://www.taylortrumpets.com). Additionally, you may be able to see this, but as a sensitive artistic musician, you will not be able to feel it until you get one in your hands to play. Then when you play it, the horn will "talk" to you and you will want to share these feelings with everyone. This is a value in a horn that money can't buy.

Liad Bar-EL

07-13-2006, 07:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
John P Piano User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Camp Hill, PA Posts: 319	And Bach is the only good make of horn out there? It's a wonder all those other brands don't go out of business! __________________ JP

07-14-2006, 01:17 AM	#17 (permalink)
mattdalton Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Newcastle, WA USA Posts: 142	Liad - It's great to hear that you've found a trumpet that you really love. It seems that most of us trumpet players are conditioned to compare equipment specs, brand names, etc. But in the end it only matters that each of us has found an instrument that best enables us to make our music come alive. And when the instrument looks good and you can connect to it on an emotional level, that's icing on the cake. I'm glad to hear that you've found all that in the Taylor, and wish you many happy hours playing it. - Matt __________________ Matt Dalton

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dcbrown1 Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 57	I have a Chicago II c trumpet. Beautiful horn...plays really well....big beautiful sound. Many folks actually prefer its tone over my Eclipse MR B-flat. That said, it's really heavy...to the point where it is somewhat hard to vary the sound. I recently tested a Monette P3...and what surprised me about the P3 was actually how light it was (yep...believe it or not) versus the Taylor. Anyway...it's a fantastic instrument for those who want a really solid sound...with super valves and responsiveness. Having played both the Monettes and the Taylors...while there are some similarities...I wouldn't call Andy's horns bad copies of Monettes by any means. I certainly agree with those who feel it is silly to bash horns...they're like golf clubs. Tons of great options that are very different...to accommodate the vast number of variables desired by diverse users. Dave Brown

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