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Old 02-06-2005, 06:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but before you totally write off the new Yamaha, remember that Chris Martin just won the Chicago job playing that model horn...........

The panel obviously had no problem with his sound.........
Supposedly Chris Martin didn’t love his at first either but he seems to gotten over that.
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Old 02-07-2005, 01:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Talked to Chris about this yesterday after an ASO Brass Quintet concert. The Yamaha 'Chicago' he is playing is one of the final prototypes. *NOT* the production model that is being sold to the public at this time. Chris has talked to Bob Malone, and Bob claims that the final production models are even BETTER than the prototype Chris has.

Anyhow, according to Chris, his prototype took a bit of 'getting used to' but is a great horm. Outstanding projection, very good overall intonation, etc.. The only downside he has found - with his prototype - is the G on top of the staff is still extemely sharp and the horn has hard slots, thus you are not able to bend the pitches too much. He has not had the chance yet to play the final production model. According to Malone, these issues have been addressed in the final production model.

Yes, the production models are playing towards the flat side. No worst than playing a Bach 25S. Malone is working on a replacement main tuning slide. Anyone who purchased a YTR-9445CHS can contact the dealer, and they will request the replacement slide for you via Yamaha ... I 'heard' that there is no cost involved. But not positive.
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Bob Malone told me the shorter slides should be here sometime this month. They are being made in Japan.

I will keep you posted. And yes, Bob also told me the production horns may be even better than the prototypes (if that is possible).
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have a friend and colleague who played that exact same horn at Pro winds and was disappointed as well. Didn't think it was anything special and didn't have the kind of sound he wanted.

Maybe its that one.. or maybe the room they have to play in is lame?
Actually I spoke to someone at Prowinds a couple of days ago - he said they have had a total of four horns, and even though they finally sold them, several other people had bought and returned them.

I have a question though: how did the tuning slide slip by them if they spent so much time designing the horn? Or was it a production error? I don't know how this kind of stuff works so I'm being curious not judgemental. If anything, I am impressed with Yamaha for making an effort to keep their customers happy.

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Old 02-07-2005, 09:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think that is a very good question. Do all of them play on the flat side? And with all of this research when the new slides come out will they play different?
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Old 02-20-2005, 06:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey there all,

I own one of these horns and absolutely love it. Instead of saying it all again, I'm just going to link you to the discussion on trumpetherald.com where I, along with a few other owners, have discussed in depth these horns and given our thoughts of how they play, as well as talked about the manufacturing process and all. I'm suppose to get a slightly shorter slide within a few weeks not because they horn plays flat, just that it doesn't have the room to pull in if the ensemble you're playing with is ridiculously sharp.

http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/v...ic.php?t=29407 <--Discussion of horn

http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/v...431&highlight= <-- Another link to TH containing a thread with a bunch of pictures of my horn.

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Old 02-27-2005, 03:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I got to blow a few notes on a Yamaha C this weekend courtesy of Joel Thomas.

The Chicago and my older Yamaha Malone C have the same pipe on them so I expected them to be closer together with regards to blow and intonation, but there where a few differences. The Chicago blew tighter than my C (but not stuffy) and MUCH more even. There where certain things about the sound of the Chicago C I found appealing, but I think I still prefer the blow and the sound of the older Malone’s. I just wish there was a way to add the evenness of the Chicago to my horn.


Even though I only got to play on it a few minutes I think I would have to give it a thumbs up, but I can definitely tell where some of the players who are not really taken by it are coming from.

thanks again joel!
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yea...buddy!

I had to get used to the blow myself ... I was coming from a Bach CL180-229 w/ a Blackburn 19-350 pipe ... but after a few days the 'tighter' blow was not a factor.

I thought I would never say this ... but the Bach was bought today, and I shipped it ... looks like Yamaha is now my favorite C trumpet!
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I too own one of these Yamaha C trumpets. The Chicago is a great horn, and IMO it is better than the prototype that I played. The horn does play on the low side, but it's so much better than having to worry about every note on a Bach. It is a tight horn, but not stuffy at all...it makes everything easier to center and play accurately. The sound is great, very smooth and even. Intonation is very good and very consistant. I'm playing on a Mt. Vernon 1C with a stock throat and backbore and love that set up. Also a GR 1HX works well too.
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Old 03-25-2005, 05:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Not to change the subject too much but has anyone here played the "New York" prototypes?
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