Couesnon Lafayette bore size help

cbdmd · 01-13-2008, 01:13 AM

My first Bb trumpet was a Couesnon Lafayette trumpet (made in France) that my Dad grew up with. I still have it and play it in certain settings. To me, it seems to have a smaller bore when I compare it to a ML trumpet and works really well for really technical pieces.
I would love to know what the bore size is. I can't find anything anywhere about bore sizes on these trumpets. It has a VERY small D stamped on the 2nd valve casing, "K" stamped on one side of the reciever and "D20" stamped on the other side. Actually the" D20" my be "P20." If that's the case, someone had mentioned that the "P" may mean petite for small bore. Then what would the "D" stamped on the 2nd valve casing mean? What would the numerical value of the bore be?
Thanks for your help....play well....chad

Voltrane · 01-13-2008, 09:10 AM

Chad,

my own first trumpet is a Couesnon, 105 rue Lafayette Paris in C/Bb.
I assume that the Lafayette brand was created specially for the US market because, in France, we do not know this brand, only Couesnon (with an address) or the Couesnon Monopole name (the top of the line).
Regarding the letters, I made some studies about this, regarding the Monopole Flugelhorn and posted the results on TH (topic "Couesnon Flugelhorns").
As far as I know, there is no relation between letters on the horn and any characteristics of the horn. It is only the first letter of the name of the guy who was responsible of the valves or the leadpipe, and so on...
Regards
Marc

wiseone2 · 01-13-2008, 09:24 AM

As I recall, Kenny Dorham endorsed this horn.
Wilmer

veery715 · 01-13-2008, 10:53 AM

Pull the 2nd valve slide and find someone with a set of calipers to measure the inside diameter. The machinist who does the work for your auto parts store can probably measure it for you.

01-13-2008, 01:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
cbdmd New Friend Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12	Couesnon Lafayette bore size help My first Bb trumpet was a Couesnon Lafayette trumpet (made in France) that my Dad grew up with. I still have it and play it in certain settings. To me, it seems to have a smaller bore when I compare it to a ML trumpet and works really well for really technical pieces. I would love to know what the bore size is. I can't find anything anywhere about bore sizes on these trumpets. It has a VERY small D stamped on the 2nd valve casing, "K" stamped on one side of the reciever and "D20" stamped on the other side. Actually the" D20" my be "P20." If that's the case, someone had mentioned that the "P" may mean petite for small bore. Then what would the "D" stamped on the 2nd valve casing mean? What would the numerical value of the bore be? Thanks for your help....play well....chad

01-13-2008, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Voltrane New Friend Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 12	Re: Couesnon Lafayette bore size help Chad, my own first trumpet is a Couesnon, 105 rue Lafayette Paris in C/Bb. I assume that the Lafayette brand was created specially for the US market because, in France, we do not know this brand, only Couesnon (with an address) or the Couesnon Monopole name (the top of the line). Regarding the letters, I made some studies about this, regarding the Monopole Flugelhorn and posted the results on TH (topic "Couesnon Flugelhorns"). As far as I know, there is no relation between letters on the horn and any characteristics of the horn. It is only the first letter of the name of the guy who was responsible of the valves or the leadpipe, and so on... Regards Marc

01-13-2008, 09:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,376	Re: Couesnon Lafayette bore size help As I recall, Kenny Dorham endorsed this horn. Wilmer __________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

01-13-2008, 10:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
veery715 Piano User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 483	Re: Couesnon Lafayette bore size help Pull the 2nd valve slide and find someone with a set of calipers to measure the inside diameter. The machinist who does the work for your auto parts store can probably measure it for you. __________________ Music = Love

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