Roth cornet?

mystrumpet · 04-02-2008, 10:23 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for any information on a Roth cornet. I'm not sure what year it is but the serial # is 64112. Any information is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Daniel

A.N.A. Mendez · 04-02-2008, 10:45 PM

I have found them to be VERY nice playing horns!

MFfan · 04-02-2008, 11:15 PM

60000-95000 serials were from 1952-61. Very good student cornet. Easy to play with good tone and accuracy. Mine is a 68xxx number so must be from the early to mid 50's but I had thought it was later. Contempora corner site has serial lists. Welcome to Contempora Corner! Horn-u-copia site has a couple of photos of Roth cornets and some commentary. Mine is the last photo and I mis-stated the serial and year and have sent in a correction. They were made in that period and there is a note the last verifiable serial for a Roth was from 59. Friend of mine has one with a deluxe case and mine has the standard case.

mystrumpet · 04-03-2008, 11:30 AM

Thanks for the quick response! What is the value on cornets from that time period?

MFfan · 04-03-2008, 12:51 PM

It depends on what it is and condition. I got mine for $50 from Shopgoodwill.com last year. I got my Collegiate last year for $50 also, from Ebay. I just bought a nice Olds ambassador cornet yesterday from a local from Craigslist for $50. From my following a lot of Ebay auctions most Ambassadors end up going between $75-$150. Trumpets a bit more. Of course model, year and condition are important.
Up the line are the higher level instruments: Reynolds Contempora, Argenta; King Master, Silversonic, Conn Concert Grand, others: Olds Special, Super, Recording, SuperRecording, etc; Getzen Capri, others, some Buescher models, Bach's, etc. can go $300-$800.

The best thing to do is surf ebay and see what is current for the models you are interested in and also use advance search to check completed auctions for various models. Having luck helps too!

oldlou · 04-03-2008, 03:55 PM

In addition to My buddy Dave's comments, the one in a deluxe case that he refered to is mine,#583XX. The Roth was Foster Reynolds attempt at making a"student grade' line of brass instruments. In doing so, he used the same major components and brass stock that he used in the making of his pro grade horns, just less fancy embellishments. Because of the heavy competition from other makers who actually were making much cheapened horns, Reynolds had to sell out to RMC who then, started throwing together the Abilene made Reynolds Medalist series of substandard 'instrument shaped objects' to compete in the student grade market. The horn that you ask about is actually almost an 'artist grade' horn. If you buy it I am certain that you will be pleased with it.

OLDLOU>>

contempora · 04-07-2008, 06:04 AM

The Roth line of cornets was originally produced by the "Ohio Band Instrument Company", a student instrument label manufactured by the F.A. Reynolds Company. Ohio Band's primary model line was The Regent and instruments were sold to dealers rather than directly to individual students.

The Roth instrument line was made for Scherl & Roth (better known for their string instruments), presumably as part of the latter's efforts to build market share in the youth orchestra market (whereas F.A. Reynolds was targeting the student and community bands, as well as professional musicians). When F.A. Reynolds founder Foster Reynolds sold his company to Scherl & Roth in 1946, the Roth instrument line became the de facto student line in the combined Reynolds/Scherl & Roth catalog.

The Roth line continued until the early 1960s, when Reynolds was bought by RMC, and Roth was replaced by the cheaper Medalist line, originally produced for RMC-Reynolds by Blessing in Elkhart. RMC went bankrupt in 1963-64 and Reynolds' assets were purchased at auction by CMI, who also owned Olds. CMI moved Reynolds to Abilene in 1964.

A Roth cornet with SN 64112 likely dates to approx. 1953. See these pages on my website for more info:

Models : Roth
Cornets : Roth
Serial Numbers : Roth, Regent

Hope that helps!

mystrumpet · 04-07-2008, 07:27 AM

Thanks!

04-02-2008, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
mystrumpet Piano User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 365	Roth cornet? Hello everyone, I'm looking for any information on a Roth cornet. I'm not sure what year it is but the serial # is 64112. Any information is appreciated. Thanks in advance Daniel __________________ Dan Peterson Horns: 1965 Bach Mt. Vernon Bb trumpet 1965 Bach cornet Mouthpiece(s) Bach 1X DW 2 cornet mp, soon to come.

04-02-2008, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
A.N.A. Mendez Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 604	Re: Roth cornet? I have found them to be VERY nice playing horns! __________________ (Above) Alexanders ragtime band-circa 1960 "Baby, I'm already the coolest, and the hippist, now you want me to be on time too?" Buddy Love "We appointed all our worst generals to command our armies, and our best generals to edit our newspapers." Robert E. Lee

04-02-2008, 11:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
MFfan Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 579	Re: Roth cornet? 60000-95000 serials were from 1952-61. Very good student cornet. Easy to play with good tone and accuracy. Mine is a 68xxx number so must be from the early to mid 50's but I had thought it was later. Contempora corner site has serial lists. Welcome to Contempora Corner! Horn-u-copia site has a couple of photos of Roth cornets and some commentary. Mine is the last photo and I mis-stated the serial and year and have sent in a correction. They were made in that period and there is a note the last verifiable serial for a Roth was from 59. Friend of mine has one with a deluxe case and mine has the standard case. __________________ Dave Rafferty 07 Barrington Trumpet 55 Besson 8-10 trumpet 52-55? Roth by Reynolds Cornet 73 Olds Ambassador Cornet ? Czech small bore Trumpet Getzen 80 cornet 66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

04-03-2008, 11:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
mystrumpet Piano User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 365	Re: Roth cornet? Thanks for the quick response! What is the value on cornets from that time period? __________________ Dan Peterson Horns: 1965 Bach Mt. Vernon Bb trumpet 1965 Bach cornet Mouthpiece(s) Bach 1X DW 2 cornet mp, soon to come.

04-03-2008, 12:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
MFfan Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 579	Re: Roth cornet? It depends on what it is and condition. I got mine for $50 from Shopgoodwill.com last year. I got my Collegiate last year for $50 also, from Ebay. I just bought a nice Olds ambassador cornet yesterday from a local from Craigslist for $50. From my following a lot of Ebay auctions most Ambassadors end up going between $75-$150. Trumpets a bit more. Of course model, year and condition are important. Up the line are the higher level instruments: Reynolds Contempora, Argenta; King Master, Silversonic, Conn Concert Grand, others: Olds Special, Super, Recording, SuperRecording, etc; Getzen Capri, others, some Buescher models, Bach's, etc. can go $300-$800. The best thing to do is surf ebay and see what is current for the models you are interested in and also use advance search to check completed auctions for various models. Having luck helps too! __________________ Dave Rafferty 07 Barrington Trumpet 55 Besson 8-10 trumpet 52-55? Roth by Reynolds Cornet 73 Olds Ambassador Cornet ? Czech small bore Trumpet Getzen 80 cornet 66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

04-03-2008, 03:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 595	Re: Roth cornet? In addition to My buddy Dave's comments, the one in a deluxe case that he refered to is mine,#583XX. The Roth was Foster Reynolds attempt at making a"student grade' line of brass instruments. In doing so, he used the same major components and brass stock that he used in the making of his pro grade horns, just less fancy embellishments. Because of the heavy competition from other makers who actually were making much cheapened horns, Reynolds had to sell out to RMC who then, started throwing together the Abilene made Reynolds Medalist series of substandard 'instrument shaped objects' to compete in the student grade market. The horn that you ask about is actually almost an 'artist grade' horn. If you buy it I am certain that you will be pleased with it. OLDLOU>> __________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list Last edited by oldlou; 04-03-2008 at 03:58 PM.

04-07-2008, 06:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
contempora New Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 45	Re: Roth cornet? The Roth line of cornets was originally produced by the "Ohio Band Instrument Company", a student instrument label manufactured by the F.A. Reynolds Company. Ohio Band's primary model line was The Regent and instruments were sold to dealers rather than directly to individual students. The Roth instrument line was made for Scherl & Roth (better known for their string instruments), presumably as part of the latter's efforts to build market share in the youth orchestra market (whereas F.A. Reynolds was targeting the student and community bands, as well as professional musicians). When F.A. Reynolds founder Foster Reynolds sold his company to Scherl & Roth in 1946, the Roth instrument line became the de facto student line in the combined Reynolds/Scherl & Roth catalog. The Roth line continued until the early 1960s, when Reynolds was bought by RMC, and Roth was replaced by the cheaper Medalist line, originally produced for RMC-Reynolds by Blessing in Elkhart. RMC went bankrupt in 1963-64 and Reynolds' assets were purchased at auction by CMI, who also owned Olds. CMI moved Reynolds to Abilene in 1964. A Roth cornet with SN 64112 likely dates to approx. 1953. See these pages on my website for more info: Models : Roth Cornets : Roth Serial Numbers : Roth, Regent Hope that helps! __________________ ElShaddai Edwards Contempora Corner elshaddai@contemporacorner.com Last edited by contempora; 04-07-2008 at 06:06 AM.

04-07-2008, 07:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
mystrumpet Piano User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 365	Re: Roth cornet? Thanks! __________________ Dan Peterson Horns: 1965 Bach Mt. Vernon Bb trumpet 1965 Bach cornet Mouthpiece(s) Bach 1X DW 2 cornet mp, soon to come.

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