Navy4Christ

It is a 38A, if that's any help, circa 1936. All part of my Dad's collection of instruments, which I inherited after his death from Alzheimer's in 2004.

His horns are still beautiful after all these years and most are in original cases, a testament to his love for these instruments. He would have loved seeing all the pictures you folks have posted .. they're absolutely wonderful, guys! Thank you for sharing them.

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Navy4Christ

That Lehnert of yours is *gorgeous* ... simply gorgeous! Any idea how old it is? Your logo is quite a bit different than Dad's horn .. his has simply the Lehnert name and 'Phila.' forming a tiny (.5" or less) circle about 2.0" from the bell's edge.

I did not see a serial number on Dad's .. but I think I have pictures of him playing it when he was a teenager, with Big Dave Cavanaugh's Curbstone Cops abt. 1934-35.

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Dale Proctor

Thanks. From what I've been told by Mark Elrod (the guy who wrote the book on Civil War brass instruments), mine dates from around 1875, and was the top of the line model - Solid German silver, Allen valves, elaborate bell engraving, and gold wash inside the bell flare (sadly, mostly worn off). They didn't have serial numbers back then, so only experts like Mark can make a good stab at how old they are. The round logo is probably a good benchmark for dating it, but I don't know enough about them to make a determination.Yours is probably pre-1885 or so, especially if it doesn't have a spit valve. Here's a better pic of the engraving on mine.

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habitatchad

Here is my new addition.
It is an Elkhart Band Instrument Company Bb/A bell tuning cornet.
It has a serial number of 1006 so the local repair guy says its probably the 6th one made and puts it circa 1924. What an ebay find for $150.

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Hitman0042

What the hell is that thing posted by Dale Proctor?

TotalEclipse

Yeah thats just a MP I had lying around. I picked this one up while I was in the UK and didn't have a flugel piece with me.
Don't really need one now as I have a Denis Wick trumpet 1 MP which is super deep and big. It gives a great sound. The valve rebuild will have to wait a little while as I have other project to finish first. Although I am on the look-out for an old German/Austrian flugel piece with the bigger shank.
Damian

TotalEclipse

Welcome to the wonderful world of Rotary valve cornets and trumpets!!!
Oh and Flugels ;)

Dale Proctor

That's a REAL cornet....

It's a circa 1875 Henry Lehnert SARV (side action rotary valve) Bb cornet with oval port Allen valves. Rotary valved instruments were the most popular type in the U.S. from the 1850's to the 1880's. In fact, rotary valved instruments probably made up 90% of the brass instruments made and used in the U.S., with practically none being Perinet valves.The piston instruments popular in Europe at that same time finally displaced the rotaries in the U.S. in the late 19th century. Funny, in modern times, rotary valved instruments are more associated with top European makers, while most U.S. instruments use Perinet valves.

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Navy4Christ

Variation on the rotary theme: a string operated side action rotary Lehnert

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trumpetera

Hi again!

It's not only the depth and size that matters. When / if you find a german flugel mpc from "the time", it will do wonders for both sound and intonation!

German flugels are the ancestors o the old Swedish type cornets (came in Bb and Eb, and had a so-called Swedish fingering system-Böhmisch actually- that lowered the 3rd valve two WHOLE notes instead of the more common 1 1/2). When I was a kid I played a Bb for years with a big deep trumpet mpc, and it worked ok. One day, I found a original piece that suited me rim-wise an I got a completely new instrument! Gone was the shrillness in the sound (much like when playing a modern piston flugel with a trumpet mpc), and the intonation was MUCH improved!

The sound of that horn of yours is to die for!!

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