would you pay this much for a horn? - Page 5

Blue Pacific · 02-23-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtiny

Did anybody else notice 1) the third valve regulator is mounted upside down (it's not just the slide upside down, the thing is actually soldered on upside down) and 2) the valves appear to be monel pistons. I don't think they had monel back when this horn was supposedly made, did they?

bigtiny

Bigtiny -- Interesting observations. According to Joe Lill's Benge site, Chicago 3rd-valve slide rings could be top or bottom mounted; unfortunately, Joe offers no photos illustrating the assembly differences. It's well known that Benge used nickel valves -- switching to monel in the mid '70s [post-15000 or so] a few years into the Anaheim period when they really started to ramp up production.

Smokes says he doesn't know the horn's history -- suggesting two things: (1) he cannot guaranteed the horn to be "all original"; (2) he bought it at an estate sale for $150.

Echoing TrentAustin words, buyer beware; or, as we used to say in the old country, caveat emptor.

-James

lakerjazz · 02-24-2008, 02:47 AM

WOW! What a crazy price, but you guys should probably note that if hotdealsmoko is a scammer, then he would obviously post a photo of a real Chicago Benge. All of this scrutinizing of the numbers being a millimeter tilted/photo editing would not really make sense.

Personally, I think that horn is real, but as you guys have said, there is really no room for taking a risk with so much money. I'm sure most of those old Chicago Benges were played by fantastic players, so I doubt that there is anything extra special to the extent that the seller is advertising.

Blue Pacific · 03-21-2008, 10:39 PM

...I'm beginning to lose count but I think this is his 4th posting...now priced at $5,749.99 (I wonder what the 99-cents is for?) -- with a buy it now price of $7,800.00.

I surmise he didn't have much success at the flea market...

A.N.A. Mendez · 03-21-2008, 11:41 PM

02-24-2008, 02:47 AM	#42 (permalink)
lakerjazz Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 52	Re: would you pay this much for a horn? WOW! What a crazy price, but you guys should probably note that if hotdealsmoko is a scammer, then he would obviously post a photo of a real Chicago Benge. All of this scrutinizing of the numbers being a millimeter tilted/photo editing would not really make sense. Personally, I think that horn is real, but as you guys have said, there is really no room for taking a risk with so much money. I'm sure most of those old Chicago Benges were played by fantastic players, so I doubt that there is anything extra special to the extent that the seller is advertising. __________________ '50 Olds Recording-Los Angeles

03-21-2008, 10:39 PM	#43 (permalink)
Blue Pacific New Friend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13	Re: He's Back ...I'm beginning to lose count but I think this is his 4th posting...now priced at $5,749.99 (I wonder what the 99-cents is for?) -- with a buy it now price of $7,800.00. I surmise he didn't have much success at the flea market... __________________ '46 Buescher 400 crn '05 Kanstul 1530 crn '07 Kanstul 1525 flg '57 Benge 3X [ML] trp '73 Benge 3X [ML] trp

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A.N.A. Mendez Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 628	Re: would you pay this much for a horn? __________________ (Above) Alexanders ragtime band-circa 1960 "Baby, I'm already the coolest, and the hippist, now you want me to be on time too?" Buddy Love "We appointed all our worst generals to command our armies, and our best generals to edit our newspapers." Robert E. Lee Last edited by A.N.A. Mendez; 03-22-2008 at 12:41 PM. Reason: Don't want to post negative stuff

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