Who's your most important teacher? - Page 3

westview1900 · 03-01-2008, 10:31 PM

The way that I think about this is that the teacher brings the student information which I liken to food. Then the student digests the information and uses it to create music. But, the student cannot be passive. He must take that information; he must use what he deems to be useful and discard which he cannot use. Too many people think that they can learn passively, as if it is the teacher's job to make the student learn and become proficient. It doesn't work that way and if we can become our own teacher, then we bring the information to ourselves in a way which we can comprehend and internalize it.

wvtrumpet · 03-01-2008, 11:10 PM

This is a great thread and makes me think of several of my early teachers....All were great advocates of learning to practice correctly, and learning to fix things yourself. I guess the old adage about giving a man a fish he eats for a day, teach him to fish he eats for a lifetime. It's cheesy, but its so true. I have really enjoyed this thread!!!!

amtrpt · 03-03-2008, 09:28 PM

wvtrumpet,
I'm glad you liked this thread. I've been extremely impressed with the great posting on this one. Thanks everyone!
Andrew

trpt2345 · 03-23-2008, 12:17 PM

My most important teacher was Barbara Butler. Once I left Eastman when I encountered a problem I'd ask myself, what would Barbara say? And the answer would pop up. I realized I had internalized what she had imparted to me and that it would stay with me forever.

I do tell my own students that the real lesson doesn't happen at "the lesson",the lesson is just me checking up on what they're doing, the real lesson is the seven days in the practice room. When we get together I'm checking and pointing them in the right direction, they have to actually go there.

iainmcl · 03-24-2008, 12:22 AM

Wow. this thread is awesome.
I'm gonna copy/paste a few of these comments to keep as reference.

Athos · 03-26-2008, 11:05 AM

Interestingly, I don't remember you cratering on that first solo class performance, Andrew. I remember an oddity or two (wasn't perfect, okay), but I also remember thinking "what a sound!" I thought your sound was so like Barbara's it was kind of scary. Even though it was clear you were having some problems, you didn't let it take you out of your game, and continued to play aggressively.

You never know what your audience is thinking, eh?

amtrpt · 04-01-2008, 07:39 AM

Thanks for the comment Athos. Nice too see you posting here. Don't be a stranger!
Best,
Andrew
ps. How's the new job treating you?

Athos · 04-01-2008, 10:57 AM

The new job is great, and seems to be a good fit. We just played Fidelio in concert, and next up is an Elliott Carter birthday celebration.

Thanks for asking... I will be checking in here.

Mike

03-01-2008, 10:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
westview1900 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 116	Re: Who's your most important teacher? The way that I think about this is that the teacher brings the student information which I liken to food. Then the student digests the information and uses it to create music. But, the student cannot be passive. He must take that information; he must use what he deems to be useful and discard which he cannot use. Too many people think that they can learn passively, as if it is the teacher's job to make the student learn and become proficient. It doesn't work that way and if we can become our own teacher, then we bring the information to ourselves in a way which we can comprehend and internalize it.
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wvtrumpet Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Virginia Brand: Bach Posts: 84	Re: Who's your most important teacher? This is a great thread and makes me think of several of my early teachers....All were great advocates of learning to practice correctly, and learning to fix things yourself. I guess the old adage about giving a man a fish he eats for a day, teach him to fish he eats for a lifetime. It's cheesy, but its so true. I have really enjoyed this thread!!!!
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amtrpt Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: toronto Posts: 110	Re: Who's your most important teacher? wvtrumpet, I'm glad you liked this thread. I've been extremely impressed with the great posting on this one. Thanks everyone! Andrew

03-23-2008, 12:17 PM	#24 (permalink)
trpt2345 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 742	Re: Who's your most important teacher? My most important teacher was Barbara Butler. Once I left Eastman when I encountered a problem I'd ask myself, what would Barbara say? And the answer would pop up. I realized I had internalized what she had imparted to me and that it would stay with me forever. I do tell my own students that the real lesson doesn't happen at "the lesson",the lesson is just me checking up on what they're doing, the real lesson is the seven days in the practice room. When we get together I'm checking and pointing them in the right direction, they have to actually go there.
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03-26-2008, 11:05 AM	#26 (permalink)
Athos New Friend Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Who's your most important teacher? Interestingly, I don't remember you cratering on that first solo class performance, Andrew. I remember an oddity or two (wasn't perfect, okay), but I also remember thinking "what a sound!" I thought your sound was so like Barbara's it was kind of scary. Even though it was clear you were having some problems, you didn't let it take you out of your game, and continued to play aggressively. You never know what your audience is thinking, eh?
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04-01-2008, 07:39 AM	#27 (permalink)
amtrpt Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: toronto Posts: 110	Re: Who's your most important teacher? Thanks for the comment Athos. Nice too see you posting here. Don't be a stranger! Best, Andrew ps. How's the new job treating you?

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Athos New Friend Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Who's your most important teacher? The new job is great, and seems to be a good fit. We just played Fidelio in concert, and next up is an Elliott Carter birthday celebration. Thanks for asking... I will be checking in here. Mike
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