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Thank you so much, very interesting. I love this place.

Michael McLaughlin

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At the school we have an old beat up version of Arban's completely in Japanese, I can't tell you anything about it except it appears to be complete.

Michael McLaughlin

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Richard Oliver

Veld,

Thanks for the link. I sent it to Office Max to check out how it would copy.

We could not get it large enough and clear enough. Any other internet copies you know of that are cleaner that contians the same?

Thanks,

Richard

p.s. maybe Office Max's methods where flawed. If anyone as successfully printed out the studies and is happy with the results, let me know what settings you used please.

k0elw

I don't know about that... Nautical navigation depended on
accurate time keeping to establish longitude. Chronograh technology
was stable and reliable before Arban. Having said that;
mechanical devices with moving parts eventually wear out; but
worn out mechanical metronomes don't just vary from calibrated tempi; but deliver an obvious uneven and unusable beat.

-Ellis

adonis74

I'm not sure why you want to copy this version. Is it somehow special?

I bought the Platinum Edition with a CD and it wasn't all that expensive. It has over 300 pages rather than the 96 pages.

I could print it out on my computer/printer, but don't see the advantage. Am I missing something?

Richard Oliver

"Is it somewhat special?" Don't know really. Call me a stupid 50 year old with a bit too much time on my hands and a quarter or too much in my pocket I guess.

"I'm not sure why you would want to get this copied." Well, neither am I for sure, and that's the reason, partly, I have not.

I gathered from an earlier post that the characteristic studies are somewhat augmentented or enlarged compared to your edition, which I also have.

I probably mis-read the poster's words though.

All the Best,

Richard

DaveLindgren

I think it's fun to approach these studies with an open mind as far as dynamics, styles, and tempos go. I like playing them in deliberately different ways to find a style or two that really speak to me, where I feel like I'm saying something dramatic and meaningful. I think that it is in these type of processes that we can discover and develop our own voices. Thow in some trills! Play it with huge crescendos like it's a Mahler symphony! Heck, go change some key signatures! I bet you've never played modal Arban's! Nobody is stopping you, go nuts!

I haven't tried the modal thing yet, I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow.. it'll probably be very odd sounding :)

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adonis74

I think you're on to something.

Consider all this hysteria about "global warming" when we know that instruments were not nearly as accurate in 1894, yet the fear mongers are trying to make us believe that they know that the earth's temperature rose PRECISELY 1.234567 (?) degrees in the last 100 years. And someone may soon say it's caused by all the hot air from cornets and trumpets duirng that time (to say nothing of that from politicians).

Many of the Arban's studies show a range of tempos like 68 - 120, so the user can pick his or her own speed. Some people have put Arban's exercises in their books and chosen their own tempo. Arturo Sandoval has such exercises within the Arban's (Carl Fischer) range and includes a CD playing at that tempo. I'm unable to play at his tempo, but it gives me the idea of what to aim for some day and the general feeling of the piece, which is a big help to a novice.

Richard Oliver

Same here Adonis, "can't" yet and something to aim for.

Richard

trumpetsplus

HI Wilmer
The edition I have used the most is by Hawkes and Son edited by John Fitz-Gerald, translated from the original edition by Ernest Ruch. When I was growing up in New Zealand it was not cool to use the Goldman-Smith version with all the duets etc.
I have hed two copies of this edition (I think I used up the notes of my first copy). I love it for the brief history with drawings of the cornet.

Does anybody use St Jacombe? I particularly liked the low register studies.

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