Brekelefuw

Freddie and Lee did face off in the album "A Night with the Cookers"
although that album is very disappointing.

Freddie was my favorite player for the last two years or so (especially his work from the 60's and 80's) but in the last few months, Chet Baker has been dominating my cd player and lift lists, with Lee following closely behind.

If you want an amazing Freddie jam session, look for "Live at the left bank" it is from 1965, the cover of the cd is purple (there is a yellow one as well which is a great cd, but not as good as this one). It is one of my favorite Freddie albums. The fact that it is live wows me everytime I listen to it.

Edit: Here is the lee, freddie jam
http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vl...9432328BT.html

and here is the Freddie live session:

http://canada.mymusic.com/product.asp?muzenbr=602147

the8thchef

"Dizzy always loved to go "mano a mano" with all the young lions...Arturo, Faddis..."

that's because they were all jocking his style and couldn't (or weren't) playing themselves. i remember being at a clifford brown jazz festival a few years ago; let's see, i know faddis was there, i know nicolas payton was there, i think brecker was there, too...man, they battled near the end of the night's show--->brecker definitely did his thing, but faddis and payton were saying more. but the thing is faddis kept playing diz stuff, going high and fast at every turn, meanwhile payton kept it paced and didn't elevate that much. payton kept playing intricacies, more like a swordsman or knifeman, while faddis kept trying to blast the stage down with a machine gun or grenade. needless to say, i, my friend matt, and donald byrd whom we were with that day, were more enthused by payton, then brecker, then the young student whose name i can't remember, with faddis and all of his busy dizzy running and screaming pulling up last.

i know diz wouldn't have lost the battle playing his stuff. but only diz can win a battle playing his stuff. and i tell you this, faddis won't cut me playing diz stuff either.

you know why? because i'm the 8th chef, 7th sun of lee morgan the cooker. (btw, i think that was the same day i met lee morgan's brother. i met clifford's brother there, too, one year. both were great honors for me, especially being introduced by donald byrd)

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the 8th chef <--> 7th sun of lee morgan the cooker


bach tr300 that just appeared one day after my last two horns suddenly disappeared

a musket is just as lethal as a machine gun

Brekelefuw

Man, I would love to meet and take a few lessons with Donald Byrd. I love his playing. His solo on Slow Drag is one of the most laid back, expressive solos I can think of.

wiseone2

Donald taught at Jazzmobile this year. Maybe he will be there again.

http://www.jazzmobile.org/default.htm

Wilmer

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Joe DiMonte

Freddie was wary of locking horns,no pun intended, with Lee. Lee could work a crowd. Freddie loved Lee, so did I.
Wilmer

Did the 1963 sessions from "The Theme From The Golden Boy" caused Freddie to grow wary of Lee ?

Lee departed Jazz Mecca in 1961 and upon his return in 1963,specifically, Dec 21,1963 it was Mayhem in Manhatten.

Many are called,few are choosen !

Long live bebop.

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Joe DiMonte

I know the feeling - Dr.Byrd is another "GREAT" hardbop trumpeter.
Although some "selfish and snobish" people critized him and others (Herbie Mann,Lou Donalson,that comes to mind ) for going commercial and becoming commercially successful during the 70's,I'm sure you'll agree with me that making money is an "American Way Of Life".

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wiseone2

On our birthday, Dec.21?

I played third trumpet with that show,Golden Boy, when it was in try-outs in Philadelphia. Stan Fishelson and Renauld Jones Jr were the other guys in the section. They were having many problems in the section.The two didn't see eye to eye on anything. Jonesey refused to play high notes and Stan would not play the "legit" things that were required............so the kid....I was the kid then, played the high notes and the legit stuff. Ralph Burns, the arranger, liked my playing, so the show began with a THIRD trumpet lyrical solo I was asked to do the show in New York, but it didn't work out.
Ah,memories!
Wilmer

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Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear.
S.Suark 1951

Joe DiMonte

Freddie and Lee did face off in the album "A Night with the Cookers"
although that album is very disappointing .

Alfred Lion of Blue Note was convinced such a session at the Brooklyn (La Marchal Club on Nostrand Avenue close to Eastern Parkway) could turn into a success.
I have that recording and although I'm not about to quibble with you assertions,I hope you had the opportunity to listen to the mentionet duet 1963 recording on Mr Blakey's "Theme From The Golden Boy."

Freddie was my favorite player for the last two years or so (especially his work from the 60's and 80's) but in the last few months, Chet Baker has been dominating my cd player and lift lists, with Lee following closely behind.
[u] Freddie was also awesome as a sideman with Oliver Nelson (Blues and the Abstract Truth) in 1961, and let's not forget that Maiden Voyage he took with Herbie in 1965

If you want an amazing Freddie jam session, look for "Live at the left bank" it is from 1965, the cover of the cd is purple (there is a yellow one as well which is a great cd, but not as good as this one). It is one of my favorite Freddie albums. The fact that it is live wows me everytime I listen to it.

That's for that recommendation. I need to revist that recording.
My last days seeing Freddie in a "live setting" was the 70's when Creed Taylor had in working in over-drive.

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"Clark Terry - C.T.,as his friends call him,is not only a master of the trumpet and flugelhorn,but a master musician and a leader to the manor born." - Dan Morgenstern.

Joe DiMonte

Freddie and Lee did face off in the album "A Night with the Cookers"
although that album is very disappointing .

Alfred Lion of Blue Note was convinced such a session at the Brooklyn (La Marchal Club on Nostrand Avenue close to Eastern Parkway) could turn into a success.
I have that recording and although I'm not about to quibble with you assertions,I hope you had the opportunity to listen to the mentionet duet 1963 recording on Mr Blakey's "Theme From The Golden Boy."

Freddie was my favorite player for the last two years or so (especially his work from the 60's and 80's) but in the last few months, Chet Baker has been dominating my cd player and lift lists, with Lee following closely behind.
[u] Freddie was also awesome as a sideman with Oliver Nelson (Blues and the Abstract Truth) in 1961, and let's not forget that Maiden Voyage he took with Herbie in 1965

If you want an amazing Freddie jam session, look for "Live at the left bank" it is from 1965, the cover of the cd is purple (there is a yellow one as well which is a great cd, but not as good as this one). It is one of my favorite Freddie albums. The fact that it is live wows me everytime I listen to it.

That's for that recommendation. I need to revist that recording.
My last days seeing Freddie in a "live setting" was the 70's when Creed Taylor had in working in over-drive.

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"Clark Terry - C.T.,as his friends call him,is not only a master of the trumpet and flugelhorn,but a master musician and a leader to the manor born." - Dan Morgenstern.

Brekelefuw

I think my biggest gripe with the Night of the Cookers cd is the recording quality and tune choice.

AS far as Oliver Nelson goes, I can't get enough of him. Blues and the Abstract Truth sold me on him. Freddie's solo on Hodown is amazing (as is the rest of his solos on that album). More Blues and the Abstract Truth is also a great album, but it isn't Freddie that is on it, I think it was Booker Little or BLue mitchell, although I can't remember right now.

I have never seen Freddie live, but I hope I have the chance to. Unfortunately, I am only 22 and missed Freddie in his prime.