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Old 01-30-2007, 10:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Lee Morgan Bio

Actually - the book mentions Wilmer Wise as the cat who loaned the horn to Lee. Page 136...
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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If you love Lee's playing, please pick up a newly issued Art Blakey DVD at www.jazzicons.com

The footage is from a 1958 concert. The jazzicon people have done a fantastic production.....the DVD looks and sounds amazing.

I also have purchased the Chet Baker and Dizzy DVD's and they are equally impressive.

If you go to their site you could see some really nice previews.

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Old 01-30-2007, 11:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Lee Morgan Bio

Mr. wise is that true , did you loan lee the horn?
Tell us about it man.
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Actually - the book mentions Wilmer Wise as the cat who loaned the horn to Lee. Page 136...
It was either a Bach LB 25 or a pre-war Besson. Lee didn't leave any of his fire in the horn
You should have heard Lee play Arban Characteristic Study#5.......wow.
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It was either a Bach LB 25 or a pre-war Besson. Lee didn't leave any of his fire in the horn
You should have heard Lee play Arban Characteristic Study#5.......wow.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Mr. wise is that true , did you loan lee the horn?
Tell us about it man.
I lent the horn to Jimmy Heath.
I got a copy of the book today. It is full of errors. The Philadelphia that Tom Perchard describes is not the Philadelphia I grew up in.
I went to elementary school with Lee's teacher, Tony Marchione. Tony was knowledgeable about jazz, and even had his own group. Tony called himself "Tony Marsh." The book says that Tony disliked jazz and couldn't play it. Not true.
Jimmy Heath was not interviewed, nor was Ted Curson. They have great knowledge of the Philadelphia part of Lee's story. I played in several bands with Lee, no attempt was made to contact me.
I will continue reading the book. It's fascinating to see how screwed up they have Lee's story. So far, I have only gotten as far as Chapter 3, let's hope it gets better and more accurate.
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I lent the horn to Jimmy Heath.
I got a copy of the book today. It is full of errors. The Philadelphia that Tom Perchard describes is not the Philadelphia I grew up in.
I went to elementary school with Lee's teacher, Tony Marchione. Tony was knowledgeable about jazz, and even had his own group. Tony called himself "Tony Marsh." The book says that Tony disliked jazz and couldn't play it. Not true.
Jimmy Heath was not interviewed, nor was Ted Curson. They have great knowledge of the Philadelphia part of Lee's story. I played in several bands with Lee, no attempt was made to contact me.
I will continue reading the book. It's fascinating to see how screwed up they have Lee's story. So far, I have only gotten as far as Chapter 3, let's hope it gets better and more accurate.
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Well, what is needed is a truly scholarly study where the author actually takes the time to do the work. We have yet to see such a book about Bird ( I think there is a pretty good one about Dizzy) so its not surprising that there is such shoddy work about Lee Morgan. We need a Halberstam to probe jazz history and I just can't see that happening.

Speaking of books, it would be a wonderful addition to jazz and music history if someone who was involved and thus very knowledeable about the jazz scene in the 50s and 60s, who was there for the fall of the big bands, the rise and fall of the New York studios, who had first hand knowledge of the players, were to write a memoir or autobiography, even scattered one like Leon Merian's. If this person were a retired trumpet player with a rich, varied musical background who has a lot to say about Philadelphia and New York, who has played with Berstein, the Broadway shows, who knows Lee Morgan, Jimmy Owens, Wynton Marsalis. Where oh where could we find such a person.

You know, its possible that the name of that talented, experienced, trumpet player could be staring me right in the face.
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Re: Lee Morgan Bio

I got a copy of the book today. It is full of errors.
The Philadelphia that Tom Perchard describes is not the Philadelphia I grew up in.

From the book it appears Mr.Perchard's first footstep in Northern Philadelphia was on Sept 14,2001 when he visited one Edgar Bateman;and strolled down Madison Street with Don Wilson.
I'm sure Don is not related to the late August Wilson of Pittsburgh,Pa or Gerald Wilson of State Street Sweet.


I went to elementary school with Lee's teacher, Tony Marchione. Tony was knowledgeable about jazz, and even had his own group. Tony called himself "Tony Marsh." The book says that Tony disliked jazz and couldn't play it. Not true.

The source of that information was DON WILSON.
Don purports to have grown up on the next street from Madison.



Jimmy Heath was not interviewed, nor was Ted Curson. They have great knowledge of the Philadelphia part of Lee's story. I played in several bands with Lee, no attempt was made to contact me.
I will continue reading the book. It's fascinating to see how screwed up they have Lee's story. So far, I have only gotten as far as Chapter 3, let's hope it gets better and more accurate.

Somehow he found a few surviving 'Jazz Messengers' and ran with the ball,so to speak.
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I picked up my copy last Saturday (2/10/2007) and it cost me $32.05 ($29.95 plus 7% Allegheny County tax or $2.10).

I find the book rather 'delightfuLEE' and refreshing.

The names listed in the acknowledgements (Page Viii & iX) and the personnel interviewed (Page 243 & 244),plus the outstanding references and cross-references convinces this reader that the young author (born 1976) did his 'due diligence' in a professional and superior manner.

A few things came to memory that gave me a chuckle but the one that stands out is young Lee's (circa 1954) 'expoobident' encounter with Edward 'Sonny' Stitt at a jam session at the instrument shop Music City (Page 30 - Paragraph 3 to Page 31)........
Fast forward to Page 223 and the encounter between a young Roy Campbell and Joe Newman - that's no ordinary Joe .

Lee's alleged theft of a TV from NYU as witnessed by some unnamed musician is news to me (Page 179).
However,althought Page 180,Para 1 is somewhat accurate,it was NOT unusual for musicians (leaders) to sell their vinyl recordings to friends or the highest bidder in the general public.
I purchased many vinyls between 1963-1966 and 1971-1976 from musicians and those in the record distribution business at street value as opposed to store (Sam Goody) value. The only difference was:
The musician signed their albums while the others including my complete
'NOT FOR SALE' Savoy Re-issues by Arista came with a "Promotional or Demonstration sticker or a hole punched in the upper right corner of the album" - The Charlie Parker;Don Byas;John Coltrane/Wilbur Harden double albums were going at $5.00 each in 1976.

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